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I don't think so. If that had been the case, the 1996 tour would have been the perfect opportunity to play it. But they reworked I'd Die For You instead and waited another 4 years for the piano driven version of Runaway.
That was the plan... Are you saying no just to say no?

I'd Die For You wasn't a hit, Runaway was. Very similar intros too. Maybe they weren't ready to remove the original hit from the set and decided to go with the reworked rarity.

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Jon hates those first two albums and just having both Tokyo Road and Only Lonely seems to be a bit of a stretch.
yeah, I agree, but Tokyo Road was featured on the Jap version, so I thought it's inclusion here made sense. I almost replaced Only Lonely with Wild In The Streets.

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I don't believe Jon when he said Stranger would have been on there. I think he was just pacifying interview questions. Jon's always one step ahead and knew that Blaze might get questioned and then "why not a Richie song"
Maybe, but I'm going to take him on his word. The question wasn't about Blaze inclusion at the time. It was from the UK press and he was talking about choosing tracks and he mentioned including some of the other hits like "Born To Be My Baby" and "Living In Sin" and "Stanger" from Richie's Solo album. So he had no real eason to bring it up at the time. But you could be right, who knows. I think it's an important track and one that was featured in many Bon Jovi shows from that era, so I think it's inclusion makes total sense.
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That was the plan... Are you saying no just to say no?

I'd Die For You wasn't a hit, Runaway was. Very similar intros too. Maybe they weren't ready to remove the original hit from the set and decided to go with the reworked rarity.

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I'm saying no because your guess doesn't make sense to me.
And I'd Die For You wasn't a rarity either. Since it got introduced during the Slippery tour it's been a setlist staple up until Crush.

But we will never find out the truth unless the band reveals what was happening back then. And since they probably don't remember it, we will keep on guessing.
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I'm saying no because your guess doesn't make sense to me.

And I'd Die For You wasn't a rarity either. Since it got introduced during the Slippery tour it's been a setlist staple up until Crush.



But we will never find out the truth unless the band reveals what was happening back then. And since they probably don't remember it, we will keep on guessing.
You think I just made that up?

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Jon hates those first two albums and just having both Tokyo Road and Only Lonely seems to be a bit of a stretch.

I don't believe Jon when he said Stranger would have been on there. I think he was just pacifying interview questions. Jon's always one step ahead and knew that Blaze might get questioned and then "why not a Richie song"
I only remember reading that quite with the Stranger inclusion coming from Richie, not Jon. Not sure Jon had really said that.

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You think I just made that up?
To use one of your favourite sentences - can you give us any proof of this?
In 1996, they were playing I'd Die For You because they had been experimenting with it just for fun in the studio some time before - Jon said that during one of the European shows before playing it.
In 2000, the initial idea had been to keep the acoustic set and hence they were probably looking for a halfway-known song to fit in there in a different fashion. However, the acoustic section was axed after 4 shows on the tour, but Runaway survived.
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I only remember reading that quite with the Stranger inclusion coming from Richie, not Jon. Not sure Jon had really said that.







To use one of your favourite sentences - can you give us any proof of this?

In 1996, they were playing I'd Die For You because they had been experimenting with it just for fun in the studio some time before - Jon said that during one of the European shows before playing it.

In 2000, the initial idea had been to keep the acoustic set and hence they were probably looking for a halfway-known song to fit in there in a different fashion. However, the acoustic section was axed after 4 shows on the tour, but Runaway survived.
This is all I could find immediately with a simple search... Wikipedia.

"Runaway" was never recorded with the current band, though at that time there were plans to put a "Runaway '94" on the album but it was never recorded.

One other point. I always assumed it was acoustic style because of Prayer 94 and Runaway 2000 but it was never really stated... It could have been a one to one updated copy too.

Discover Music also talks about it. I'm surprised this is new info for everyone.
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I only remember reading that quite with the Stranger inclusion coming from Richie, not Jon. Not sure Jon had really said that.
He 100% did. It was in the UK press, I remember reading it clearly. Probably either Kerrang! or Raw magazine.

It's not really hard to believe that they would have included Stranger, when you consider that Ballad Of Youth was included on the Keep The Faith videos, and Every Road was on deluxe editions of WAN many years later. So Jon was not adverse to using Richie solo tracks on band releases. Stranger was a staple in the setlist around the time and Jon has been quoted saying that he wishes Richie would have saved the song for Bon Jovi....so this was a way of getting it on a Bon Jovi album.
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Discover Music also talks about it. I'm surprised this is new info for everyone.
I have to confess, I've never heard this before either and I was very well read up on the band in the 90s. Interesting find, I wonder where this info comes from?
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This is all I could find immediately with a simple search... Wikipedia.

"Runaway" was never recorded with the current band, though at that time there were plans to put a "Runaway '94" on the album but it was never recorded.

One other point. I always assumed it was acoustic style because of Prayer 94 and Runaway 2000 but it was never really stated... It could have been a one to one updated copy too.

Discover Music also talks about it. I'm surprised this is new info for everyone.
It's not that it's new info, it's that it's never been properly attributed to when and where it was said. It's been a rumour for awhile that someone put into Wikipedia, doesn't really make it fact until someone can point out who said it and when.
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I remember there being talks about the band re-recording Runaway for Crossroad because no one bar Jon and Hugh were on it, but I always assumed they would've re-done the original version at best
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