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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist
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Originally Posted by LadyJovi1
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First, you need to just accept I know my sh** when it comes to Bon Jovi. So condescending to me will only result in coming off as desperate. You already have one strike with attempting to pin attachment to the 80s and being out of touch with reality on me.
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Whoa whoa Whoa here hold on a sec, Purist I think you got me all totally wrong here! I never ever thought for a second that you didn't know you sh*t when it comes to Bon Jovi, where does this come from?? I never ever ONCE critisized you in any way shape or form here!!! Matter of fact, your one of the few people I actually like Around here! Your way off base Purist, way off base. I was not condescending, I was simply asking if the voice issue was what you were refering to. It had nothing to do with being nasty or self righteous here! NOT AT ALL~ And how the hell did I get a strike? Listen, did we not have good conversations before in other places? I like Ya! you got me all wrong here Bud, all wrong. Please, don't bite my head off, ask me to clarify or something if you don't seem to understand what I am driving at. You totally got the wrong idea.
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Second..I'm not going over his voice with you again, you've made up your mind that he is doing his absolute best and his voice has simply eroded, which means he never had that great of a voice to begin with if at his relative young age he can't keep up with his older peers.
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Where did I deny this? I never disagreed with you in the least. I simply said I FELT that he was doing his best.l Could I be wrong? SURE I CAN! Hell I am not perfect!
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Third...there is more than just his voice that is at issue. The "bar" and "past" I'm referring to is the one he set before leaving the public eye in 1997 before returning in 2000.
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Ok, That's all I asked for you to do was to clarify, not to rip me apart.
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I don't get locked into a period. I'm a loyal fan of long running bands who expects to see those bands continue to let their creative juices flow while employing their years of experience which should only feed the quality of their work. I do not use my bands as my personal nostalgia kick to pretend I'm back in high school by demanding they be as they were then.
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Nor do I get Locked into a period. The way you phrased it, I truly thought you were refering to a better "time" when the band was more on top of things as SOME refer to it around here.
And just for future reference, I enjoy the old Bon Jovi as much as the new. Do I think some of the songs are crap? Yes. But I do like some of them as well.
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So with that mind....yeah..I'm less than thrilled with their direction since 2000 as they did exactly that...dumbed down back to 1986 with a modern twist. After These Days and Destination Anywhere..that wasn't going to fly as honest creative work.
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Once again I am in agreeance with you, I love These days, Matter of fact, it happens to be my favorite Bon Jovi album. Destination Anywhere is Brilliant IMO as well. It's on constant repeat in my Stereo.
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Im critical of Jon in a reasonable sense and I'm also quite capable of pointing out where he delivers as opposed to being obsessed with what is wrong with him or the band. So don't try to peg me as one who does the latter.
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I never ever said I was 'pegging"you. Gees Purist here I thought we were becomming friendly enough to have an intelligent Discussion. I never said you were one of the ones who was "obessed" with downing him or the band. Please show me where on earth I ever accussed you of such a thing??????? I simply asked you if you were refering to 'earlier" times. When the band was a force to be reckoned with, they were strong, Jon's voice was top notch and their drive and ambition was top notch. THAT IS ALL I ASKED. Somewhere along the line here you way , misjudged what I was asking you, and You misjudged me. |
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Ooohhhh. I was wrong. I mis-read you.
I read your reply as sarcasm. My mistake and apologies.
How embarassing. I should have gotten clarification from you instead of shooting first.[/quote]
Purist,
Thus the problem with being behind a computer screen. Words are wrods, but you can't see How people are meanng to phrase things. Alot fo things get taken out of context thanks to a Pc. Your not actually having a face-to-face conversation, so you can't see people's expressions or manuerisums. That truly screws up alot of people who would have gotten along quite well otherwise.
It's all good, your forgiven.
