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Old 04-18-2013, 09:35 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks Jon actually (early on in this tour) sounds/sings BETTER than on the last tour? Take Raise Your Hands for example - that (as an opener) sounded bloody awful in parts in Munich 2011 (check the live stream on YouTube if you don't believe me ) and nowadays he perfectly nails it IMHO. Also other notes seem to have more depth to it - like he really did take vocal coaching or something. Thinking how his voice usually gets better the longer the tour lasts I'm more than hopeful for a great show in June
I think that Jon sounded way better in the Live 2011 tour than here, you can see that in songs like Always, These Days or even I'll Be There For You. On this one Jon's struggling to sing and he can't do it in most of the songs. Hope is something temporary and he gets better.
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Am I the only one who thinks Jon actually (early on in this tour) sounds/sings BETTER than on the last tour? Take Raise Your Hands for example - that (as an opener) sounded bloody awful in parts in Munich 2011 (check the live stream on YouTube if you don't believe me ) and nowadays he perfectly nails it IMHO.
That's because Jon had an off night in Munich that night, pretty much everything sounded dreadful that show. And no, he doesn't nail it. It's still "yaaa, yaaagaaddaneeestyrepjoeteeesjaaaaan", which doesn't sound like nailing things to me.

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"yaaa, yaaagaaddaneeestyrepjoeteeesjaaaaan"
I think it's "yewwwwwwwwww, yewgaaddaneeestyrepjoeteeesjaaaaan"
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That's because Jon had an off night in Munich that night, pretty much everything sounded dreadful that show. And no, he doesn't nail it. It's still "yaaa, yaaagaaddaneeestyrepjoeteeesjaaaaan", which doesn't sound like nailing things to me.

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Lol, nice quote Don't know if I agree though, I don't have any problems with him singing it that way (in fact I can't stand some of the "rough" 80s vocals - for example I like LOAP from the 90s/00s live much better than the studio version) - and I think he sounded great in Munich (most of the time, but took a few songs for him to get into it).

Might be that he had a bad night that night but it seems easier for him to sing that song now than it did 2 years ago...
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I think that Jon sounded way better in the Live 2011 tour than here, you can see that in songs like Always, These Days or even I'll Be There For You. On this one Jon's struggling to sing and he can't do it in most of the songs. Hope is something temporary and he gets better.
Don't think I can agree with that, in the "when the sun don't shine" etc. part of Always he sounds shit today and sounded shit in 2011 and even 2008 - it's just too high for him to sing it anymore, though I really DO appreciate he's trying, so not hitting certain notes is not a showstopper for me Same thing with These Days 2011, probably won't be much different in 2013 but that's ok with me. I'll Be There For You sounds great always
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Don't think I can agree with that, in the "when the sun don't shine" etc. part of Always he sounds shit today and sounded shit in 2011 and even 2008 - it's just too high for him to sing it anymore, though I really DO appreciate he's trying, so not hitting certain notes is not a showstopper for me Same thing with These Days 2011, probably won't be much different in 2013 but that's ok with me. I'll Be There For You sounds great always
That part of the song is the reason why they should drop the whole thing... it's actually painful to watch and listen to; he can't even pronounce the words properly. I know some people say it's worth it because the song is great but it's just not... it's horrific.

Drop it another half step or drop the song; he's unable to express any emotion other than physical pain while performing it as it is and it's not enjoyable to watch, in my opinion.
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That part of the song is the reason why they should drop the whole thing... it's actually painful to watch and listen to; he can't even pronounce the words properly. I know some people say it's worth it because the song is great but it's just not... it's horrific.

Drop it another half step or drop the song; he's unable to express any emotion other than physical pain while performing it as it is and it's not enjoyable to watch, in my opinion.
I agree with it being painful to watch, the faces he pulls and his entire body language is just telling he can't do it and never manages to nail it properly anymore.

If you however feel he has to drop the song because of certain parts he can't hit anymore you'll find he can't sing most of his catalogue anymore. The chorus of Faith, the bridge before Prayer, the chorus of Have A Nice Day, all of Bad Name...the list is endless. You just don't pick up on it as much because you're used to the alternate ways he's sung most songs now. Always however is only ever so often played, thus any mistake becomes quite obvious.

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I agree with it being painful to watch, the faces he pulls and his entire body language is just telling he can't do it and never manages to nail it properly anymore.

If you however feel he has to drop the song because of certain parts he can't hit anymore you'll find he can't sing most of his catalogue anymore. The chorus of Faith, the bridge before Prayer, the chorus of Have A Nice Day, all of Bad Name...the list is endless. You just don't pick up on it as much because you're used to the alternate ways he's sung most songs now. Always however is only ever so often played, thus any mistake becomes quite obvious.

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I haven't seen them live since The Circle your but Always was the only song I witnessed then where Jon looks like an old man, bent over, in serious pain and sounding like he was gargling rather than singing the lines.

The others you mention, he was pretty much fudging through and still moving around a little bit. If he's singing all those tunes as he did/does Always, then I am really hoping Richie is back for IOW festival.
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I agree with it being painful to watch, the faces he pulls and his entire body language is just telling he can't do it and never manages to nail it properly anymore.

If you however feel he has to drop the song because of certain parts he can't hit anymore you'll find he can't sing most of his catalogue anymore. The chorus of Faith, the bridge before Prayer, the chorus of Have A Nice Day, all of Bad Name...the list is endless. You just don't pick up on it as much because you're used to the alternate ways he's sung most songs now. Always however is only ever so often played, thus any mistake becomes quite obvious.

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I agree about Always and the last part of the Prayer bridge (before the solo), but Faith he does manage ok recently I think and Bad Name is quite easy for him to sing - Have A Nice Day is still ok with me (like Raise Your Hands), whereas in Always and These Days and some other songs you can really see him struggle...
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I agree about Always and the last part of the Prayer bridge (before the solo), but Faith he does manage ok recently I think and Bad Name is quite easy for him to sing - Have A Nice Day is still ok with me (like Raise Your Hands), whereas in Always and These Days and some other songs you can really see him struggle...
The "problem" is that you're used to him singing Bad Name that way. He hasn't sung the song right the past 5 years or so and is gradually getting worse, with the backing vocals being louder and louder with every tour just so they cover him more.

Keep The Faith? "Knowwwwliveraaaaain" is what it often comes down to in the chorusses. Have A Nice Day? He's not singing that one, he's just holding the note in the right key and is "lucky" he can reach it. It's My Life and Born To Be My Baby are others he's been struggling with more and more. Bad Medicine? He hasn't sung the full chorus in years.

Don't believe me? Just notice how he very often puts an H in front of every sentence that starts with a vowel. Hoonly God would know the reason...Hiigh ain't got no fever...Wanted deador halive...and the worst being Hits My Life; Highaint gonna live forever...highjastwannalive whilaaimalaaaive...Hits my life.

Again, the list is endless but because you're used to it you won't pick up on it. Most people won't notice it which is why it's not that big of a problem for him yet.

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