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Alec John Such making a few mistakes. 5 13.89%
Jon Bon Jovi being off key ánd forgetting the lyrics. 26 72.22%
I am a blind backstager and will vote for the Alec option because I don't want to do any harm Jon. 5 13.89%
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Old 04-18-2005, 12:01 AM
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I'd like to see everyone here in their 40s singing Radio Saved My Life Tonight in its original key. And don't give me that crap of Paul McCartney can still sing original keys. Beatles songs are no rock songs like those BJ songs.

But yeah, let Jon read this. He reda he sucks and can better quit. So no more BJ and the board can be closed. Yeah that's what we all want.
1) Let me remind you that everyone here in their 40s aren't in music business.

2) Rock songs? Bwah!...and Jon can't even perform poppy stuff properly.

3) If he (they) can't even try to put some real effort into it, quitting ain't such a bad choise
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Old 04-18-2005, 12:42 AM
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I'd like to see everyone here in their 40s singing Radio Saved My Life Tonight in its original key. And don't give me that crap of Paul McCartney can still sing original keys. Beatles songs are no rock songs like those BJ songs.
actually I';m not in my 40's but I can sing it in it's original key, I am a singer in a band but I'm not what you would call a profesional singer, Jon is thought.

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But yeah, let Jon read this. He reda he sucks and can better quit. So no more BJ and the board can be closed. Yeah that's what we all want.
Now this just made me laugh my ass off. Jon has taken worse kinds of criticism from much more important people, do you really think if he read this on a messsage board he would quit??
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Old 04-18-2005, 12:50 AM
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I'd like to see everyone here in their 40s singing Radio Saved My Life Tonight in its original key. And don't give me that crap of Paul McCartney can still sing original keys. Beatles songs are no rock songs like those BJ songs.

But yeah, let Jon read this. He reda he sucks and can better quit. So no more BJ and the board can be closed. Yeah that's what we all want.
1) Let me remind you that everyone here in their 40s aren't in music business.
Exactly. When I'm in my 40's (or 50's or whatever) and I don't perform my job as well as I used to, I also receive criticism and I might just risk losing my job if I continue not working on certain standards. I don't see why Jon shouldn't get criticism if he's not performing like he used to.
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Old 04-18-2005, 01:23 AM
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There is nothing interesting to contribute to this "discussion", since it has no subject at all beyond serving your opinion. Every single "option" of your poll is trying to prove the same, your point. Jon is a stupid ****, is a stupid ****. Is a stupid ****. And please, don't read that literally as your point.

It is no secret that Jon is fallible, that he can't hit the high notes anymore and isn't all that much into IT these days. Your poll has no purpose other than taking the piss out of people, who are bored by your old news, to satisfy your ego.
If it's not interesting to you, why are you even bothered leaving a reply?

And it seems like you're generalising over here with your people that are bored by old news, because so far a lot of people are agreeing with me about this, and with the exception of the same few silly backstagers no one is posting any reply in which they disagree with me. You aren't as well, but that's because you're never talking about the subject but always about the poster who posts it, in this case, is me.

We all know you wouldn't have placed that reply of you if the topic was made by someone else, but you're just doing it because I'm posting it. Which is really sad and childish to me.

I just made this topic because I was wondering if there are people that disagree with me who could back up why. I wasn't trying to start a discussion about how miserably Jon sings nowadays, the topic was made because of the reason stated. And that's all. No other intentions. If my intention was to bash Jon, and to satisfy my ego (why my ego would be satisfied because of people agreeing with me about my opinion of Jon is beyond me) I could've simply posted a "Jon sucks" topic. I would've gotten more replies, a discussion with more arguments why and all that stuff. But I didn't.

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I'd like to see everyone here in their 40s singing Radio Saved My Life Tonight in its original key. And don't give me that crap of Paul McCartney can still sing original keys. Beatles songs are no rock songs like those BJ songs.
Steven Tyler, Bruce Springsteen, Mick Jagger, Bryan Adams, Axl Rose, Joe Cocker. They all sing in the original keys and are all beyong their 40s. And about Paul McCartney; A song doesn't have to be a rock song to be tough to sing. Plus, listen to any performance of Live And Let Die, and then comment about his vocal performance. He's got a more powerful voice than Jon has got in any of his songs nowadays. That's all I've got to say about the singing, as like I said, it wasn't my intention to start a debate about the vocal performance.

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Old 04-18-2005, 02:12 PM
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If it's not interesting to you, why are you even bothered leaving a reply?
To lay open what a silly poll it is.

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And it seems like you're generalising over here with your people that are bored by old news, because so far a lot of people are agreeing with me about this, and with the exception of the same few silly backstagers no one is posting any reply in which they disagree with me.
But that's the point. There isn't really an option that means disagreeing with you.

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You aren't as well, but that's because you're never talking about the subject but always about the poster who posts it, in this case, is me.
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It is no secret that Jon is fallible, that he can't hit the high notes anymore and isn't all that much into IT these days.
I don't know where this part is talking about you. I gave my opinion about it which made exactly clear that it is option 2, of course option 2, because there is no real chance to choose something else.
There is no discussion about the facts in option 2, but what you are once again trying to get out of them is highly amusing to me.

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We all know you wouldn't have placed that reply of you if the topic was made by someone else, but you're just doing it because I'm posting it. Which is really sad and childish to me.
Talking about generalising, eh?
Anyway, that is probably true, but whose fault is it if I read something that makes me react? Mine? I would have thought it IS the posters'.
It's the same with you and your friend Sambo-Chris, or with our special friend Devilsson. So you're as sad and childish as I am.
And come on, you like reading stuff about you, don't you?

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I just made this topic because I was wondering if there are people that disagree with me who could back up why.
And since this poll seems useless to me, there was no other way for me to disagree than criticising the poll itself.

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I wasn't trying to start a discussion about how miserably Jon sings nowadays,
No, neither this.

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the topic was made because of the reason stated. And that's all. No other intentions.
Nor that in my opinion.

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If my intention was to bash Jon, and to satisfy my ego (why my ego would be satisfied because of people agreeing with me about my opinion of Jon is beyond me) I could've simply posted a "Jon sucks" topic.
No, you could not. Because you either wouldn't get away with it that easy anymore or you wouldn't get your intended reaction that easy anymore.
You put your muck into tricky phrasings recently.
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ha ha h.... I saw Jon on stage at borgata 2004(hdtv not there ) and yes he was on the auto pilot once again...
Yeah, and watching on HDTV is almost like being there.


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funny that when fans claim he is having a blast noone doubt it but if someon dares to say something opposite it's BS ...
It's BS when someone tries to pass off opinion as fact.

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...but that doiesnb't change anything about what I have on the pep rally 2005 or borgata 2004: auto pilot ... not anything I can see as a guy having a blast
You were at the pep rally? I don't think that was on HDTV, was it?

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he doesn't say i wanna perform because i love it and I miss my fans
Jon has repeatedly thanked the fans of Bon Jovi through the years. I don't quite understand what your complaint is unless it's more bitterness over Jon's association with arena football and the shows they are playing here and not there.

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you can't stand what I THINK and say ??
What? You're welcome to your opinion. Just like some of the things that get old being rehashed over here, your bad feelings toward Jon's interest in his football team is just as played out. Let him do what he enjoys, one day Bon Jovi will not tour anymore and all they will do is their outside interests. Why complain about it now when they are still making music and touring together?
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Steven Tyler, Bruce Springsteen, Mick Jagger, Bryan Adams, Axl Rose, Joe Cocker. They all sing in the original keys and are all beyong their 40s
I just noticed this, Axl Rose??
Maybe he sings in the original key, but should he??
I got my hands on some songs (not a whole bootleg) from some of their last performances and axl really sounded ok on some songs and like sh1t on others.
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Steven Tyler, Bruce Springsteen, Mick Jagger, Bryan Adams, Axl Rose, Joe Cocker. They all sing in the original keys and are all beyong their 40s
I just noticed this, Axl Rose??
Maybe he sings in the original key, but should he??
I got my hands on some songs (not a whole bootleg) from some of their last performances and axl really sounded ok on some songs and like sh1t on others.

I agree with you on this one. Axl USED TO BE on top of his game in the beginning. But some of the boots I have, he sounds HORRIBLE!!!!!! Jon may be slipping a little here and there, but no way can it be said that Axl has a great voice. Besides I much rather go see Bon Jovi where I am guarented a show, then to spend my money to go see Axl and his new band or even go see Guns back in the day and wonder if I was actually gonna get a show or if I was gonna have to run for my life away from a riot, because the lead singer threw a temper tantrum. At least with Jovi, you know the show will happen unless there was some sort of catostrophic event. Not because the lead, was a 2 year old and rather go to a basketball game.

If you can't tell, I have no respect for Axl Rose anymore.
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I don´t think Axl ever was at the top of his game. He rarely gave top vocal performances (this based on several bootlegs, not actual concerts). He (or his voice) is just too varying.
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I'd like to see everyone here in their 40s singing Radio Saved My Life Tonight in its original key. And don't give me that crap of Paul McCartney can still sing original keys. Beatles songs are no rock songs like those BJ songs.
George Michael, Mick Hucknall (two of the best singers of the 90s).......they dont seem to have any trouble
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