What's Wrong With Eye Candy???

I will never figure you out...
Btw what's wrong with fat people??

Maybe because she used to be one, she sees herself and the potential to return to being fat in every overweight person. She hates herself so much she takes it out on every overweight person she sees. And since she's a Richie fan, she has to assume that it's only Jon fans who are fat. So, which is worse, being fat or being hateful? Personally, I'd rather hang out with a fat person than someone so full of malice. And, actually, I'd rather just enjoy the show than worry about judging everyone who walked by me.

I've always consider over-weighty person to be more happy and easy going then the ones that are slim. But that's of course a generalization. But still, people who don’t care too much about their looks (I don’t say that fat people don’t care about there looks, but not as much as the rest of us do…) are more often more easily going.

I have no trouble with bon jovi fans being fat! I guess a lot of people who dig jovi were young during the 80' and today are middle age and have put on some weight, but that don't pisses me of...

I think she needs a diary or something!

Your very correct Rainsong ..But ill say this WHEN THOSE folks were mean to me in public then told all there " backstage buds" about it most thought they were quite amusing IN FACT a lot thought laughing and relishing in my hurt was FUN for themselves. So why if now the tables have turned and im the mean spirted bitch its not . shall Idare say poltiically correct for me to hurt back?
Sure it is
And as for taking them on personally I did a HANDFUL at Nokia Theatre in NEw York City . I think made my point there ,and some got the message , and maybe I gained a little respect.
If you find fans like your claiming exsist please show them to me . And , no I dont mean that in any given sarcastic way to you (really) or anybody. EVERY fan I met through boards or the fanclub was downright mean nasty and fit the decrittion I mentioned. But maybe ( Im going out on a limb here) there are fans like you say ...maybe I havent met them ...maybe it was my misfortune. And I will give you that that in truth ..there might be a better crop of fans out there that maybe I havent met . After bein hurt and kicked FAR too many times by these know it all bitches, you can see why I feel burned a bit .

As for reviews why? No one HAS EVER tried to be nice to me Rainsong. If I could have given lots of pictures to share , reviews but no. I actally feel bad I feel so mean about hurting people , but really thats how I feel. And look theres tons of folks on here who also did shows , why dont they do a review? Doesnt just have to be me . Maybe in time ill want to share again ..but for now no I cant .

People never looked inside me saw what potential I had a HUMAN bein , and judged me on nonsense , which in truth wasnt truly whom or what Im about. If folks knew they real me they might be quite surprsied at the things I do , the charites im involved in , and the things that mean most to me as a person. Instead folks focused on nonsense which wasnt even a 1/10 of whom I was . Can you blame me? So I moved on lost the weight, gained on some luck with some money , and made my life better . How can you knock a person for that? I could go on and on with that but its not worth it really , no one really cares about you anyway in these places I feel , and sometimes I wonder is it really worth proving? Id love to hear what foks think about that



""Maybe because she used to be one, she sees herself and the potential to return to being fat in every overweight person. She hates herself so much she takes it out on every overweight person she sees. And since she's a Richie fan, she has to assume that it's only Jon fans who are fat. So, which is worse, being fat or being hateful? Personally, I'd rather hang out with a fat person than someone so full of malice. And, actually, I'd rather just enjoy the show than worry about judging everyone who walked by me.""""

Thats a good portion TRUE Becky. Do I hate myself no . Love myself ?? Nope . In the middle somewhere . I guess after losing 150 pounds it takes time to garner love and respect for ones self again .
And I know Jon Fans arent the only overweight bunch ,I know that was shallow of me ( admitted) and that I will say I went over the top for.
And you know Becky if you really mean youd rather hang with a fat person than a hateful one ..well where were all of you when I was fat and needed a freind in the Bon Jovi Community?
If all im saying is untrue about those overwight fans then why are they the way Im telling it?
I agree like I said Maybe I saw the select bunch whom are a minority...but when I needed a freind and I needed support no one was nice to me NOBODY nada . So in truth you cant blame me for bein bitter .
Id love to meet nice fans and really know what thats like , but in my opinion it wont happen , cause everybody judges you . So rather than try anymore I resorted to hate and bashing .. THE VERY thing I SWORE if I lost weight Id never do .
And you know what , maybe it took reading a few posts to make me see then fighting fire with fire ( or in my case making fun of people who were like myself ) wasnt right .
Oh and the throw rug thing was wrong too , I shouldnt call folks stupid I hated when I was called dumb , so it was wrong of me.

So if there real fans out there whom Ive hurt with my remarks , I wont throw you all in the same catagory just cause a few bad apples tried to spoil it for me .
Maybe in time Ill leran to trust fans again and maybe in time Ill give all fans no matter whom they are or what they look like a chance .
So with that Im regretfully sorry and if I came across as a nutter or wack job , im sorry as well , really. No more fighting on end. You made your points and I agree with them , and since it will never change and Ill always be hated , what point was really made. Not much probally .

We were the cool people hangin out at the bar before showtime, you know the ones who didn't really give a shit about the backstage war or the fat/slim war going on at the shows. In fact, at least I was pretty much oblivious to it.

I struggle with my weight. I joke that I've been on a diet since I was ten. So, I think you're wrong in saying overweight people don't care as much about their looks. I think it's exactly the opposite. Everything becomes about weight. They feel like they're not good enough to be out in public with the rest of humanity because they're not a size 2. Like WWD has referenced, people are CRUEL to overweight people. Absolutely vicious. So overweight people learn to hate themsevles and hate their bodies. It's okay to make fun of someone who needs to loose 30 pounds. Make a racial slur or laugh at a disabled person and you can get sued. At my thinest, I thought I looked like a sumo wrestler or something and now I can look back and photos and realize I was just a normal sized girl. Hell, I was thinner than some people I thought were thin! Self concept is completely screwed up! I wish I could be as thin now as I was in high school when I thought I was huge.

Where was I WhiteWingedDove? Depends on when you were looking. I've been in the pen-pal community for years before getting online. I can assure you, I wouldn't have been hateful to you at all. I would have been there cheering you on and probably doing whatever diet you were doing at the time. I think I've done them all.

But here's another thing for you to consider... there are just a lot of bitches in the Bon Jovi community. It has NOTHING to do with weight or which member of the band is their favorite either. I don't go out of my way to meet other Bon Jovi fans because so many are just catty and think they're in competition. "Oh, I've seen the band 253 times." "Well, I'm in the Bad Medicine video!" "Yeah, well, I grew up 15 houses down from the janitor at Richie's middle school!"

The last time I went to see Bon Jovi, I met up with Keith fans. They're just a nicer group, generally speaking, but there are some bitches in that community too. It's like everything else in life. You have to take the good with the bad.

Becky

WWD, Ok , i'm good for a truce on this subject. I think we all made our points.

I truly am sorry if you were given a bad time by people from the BJ fan community. My experience here has been that we argue and disagree over issues like "what is considered rock and what's not", sometimes we have "across the pond" issues, but usually, not always , we manage to get by without drawing blood.

My experience with backstage has been much the same overall, although sometimes I think they get a bit overwraught about some things, you are right, my personal exposure to alot of them is limited, I know five or six girls personally, all of them very nice at least they have been to me.

As for the shows, well i for one really like to read others opinions and impressions of live shows. On this board, most haven't seen the tour yet, so otheres reviews are a way to keep up. I believe both Becky and I reviewed the shows we went to, I was just curious as to why you weren't posting your impressions, I'd like to read them.

Look, I have never to my knowledge, met you, nor have I ever seen a photo of you so my only impression of you is in what you post, what you look like doesn't matter to me, I'm very happy for you if you have gotten yourself physically where you want to be, it's an accomplishment and one you should be proud of. I'm a former athelete, and I have to really fight to stay in any kind of shape since I stopped playing, so the whole weight thing is a very familiar concept to me. As for what others think, darlin' I learned a long time ago that i'm the one that has to walk through my life, no one else so while there are people in my life who's opinions I value, for the most part, as long as I can look in the mirror and say, "I like me today" what the rest of the world thinks of me really doesn't matter.

With all that said, please feel free to start or join in on a thread, I'll be happy to agree or disagree as I see it, no personal slams or rudeness necessary, ok?

If I were to ask you what made up Take That's fan base - what would you say??

take that who?