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Old 04-09-2017, 11:10 PM
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I'd prefer this scenario to the one that's more or less quoted in my signature...
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Old 04-09-2017, 11:17 PM
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I'd prefer this scenario to the one that's more or less quoted in my signature...
Yes. Definitely.
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:08 AM
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I think others have already said anything I would reply except that it's funny that one person who keeps telling us we shouldn't make assumptions about why Richie left four years after the fact decided in about four minutes what Jon's motivation for cancelling Denver was. Because we all know the ins and outs of what it takes to reschedule shows, book venues in advance, and what the road crew's contracts and obligations/ plans for what they doing after the Bon Jovi tour was supposed to be over for this leg.

At least Jon apologized and took responsibility for the decision.

And as Brooke suggested, he will probably do something to make it up to Denver if possible.

He didn't get sick to purposely screw anyone over and illness isn't something you can put on the calendar in advance.

That's all. I've had a migraine for about 20 hours. Peace out. Zzzzzzz
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:10 AM
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This part I've always found curious.
When Jon used to say "no one has seen him"... Did he not include Hugh in that? Who stood next to Richie and played at Sundance with him in early 2014...And had photos together on Hugh's wife's Instagram.
And also, we know Phil X saw him at some point due to his (since deleted) tweet about them running into each other.

I also tend to believe that these days, it would be difficult for Richie and Jon not to have had contact... Texts etc. Surely they are speaking again by now?

I have nothing against Jon or Richie. Just genuinely curious...Maybe just Jon's way of shutting down the media attention

David and Tico have also said they have not talked to him. Again, way back in another tread I think they may also consider "talking" to someone differently. A text, social media to some are not a conversation. He definitely ran into PhilX backstage at a Jeff Beck show in LA last year. Richie started following Phil on twitter right after and to date Phil has not reciprocated. Didn't realize he had deleted that tweet. Perhaps trying to avoid any potential drama in the fan base - he's never to me seemed to be trying to take anyone's place.
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:36 AM
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I think they may also consider "talking" to someone differently. A text, social media to some are not a conversation.
That's true. It would be nice to think there's been actual conversations after 4 years... But perhaps not.

I guess Hugh is the only one he's spent any time with in person then.
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:48 AM
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That cuts both ways. Jon has all HIS fame and money because he handpicked 4 other guys he knew could take him to the top.

...But I'll guarantee you that, just like in the movie, there's a whole world of shit that goes on that the Great Oz will never let anybody see unless some dog draws the curtain back and he gets caught with his pants down. And even that will probably only serve to make some fans more grateful because kissing Jon's ass will be easier that way...
EXACTLY. Let's not let our "loyalty" to Bon Jovi blind us to the fact that they are far from innocent "victims" of Richie. Jon was ready to dump us all to go play NFL tycoon, remember? Indeed, isn't that why he abruptly called the band back to work -- just as Richie was about to release Lowdown -- to raise the additional funding?

NEVER lose sight of the fact that Bon Jovi is the result of FIVE people, not ONE person plus four "employees (their record label sure didn't!), and that it was Jon PLUS Richie that made the Bon Jovi brand so "delicious!"
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:50 AM
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Didn't realize he had deleted that tweet.
Actually he didn't delete it. My mistake. It's still there, just buried
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Old 04-10-2017, 01:56 AM
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I don't see the connection between Jon cancelling Denver and Richie dropping off the tour considering he did the exact same thing in 2013. He never made up those shows or rescheduled.
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EXACTLY. Let's not let our "loyalty" to Jon blind us to the fact that he is far from a injured innocent "victim" of Richie. He was ready to dump us all to go play NFL tycoon, remember? Indeed, isn't that why he abruptly called the band back to work -- just as Richie was about to release Lowdown -- to raise the additional funds?

We also shouldn't lose sight of the fact that Bon Jovi was a BAND, not an act. It had FOUR members, not a superstar with backup players, and that it was Jon PLUS Richie that made the Bon Jovi brand so delicious (their record label sure didn't).
Ugh no one is calling Jon a victim! No one is calling him injured! Why can't what Richie did be super shitty and we can agree without it being taken as an attack as Jon. "Richie MUST have had a reason to leave, probably something Jon did" is just so backwards.
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Old 04-10-2017, 02:30 AM
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Ugh no one is calling Jon a victim! No one is calling him injured! Why can't what Richie did be super shitty and we can agree without it being taken as an attack as Jon. "Richie MUST have had a reason to leave, probably something Jon did" is just so backwards.
What Richie did was (and is) super shitty. Jon is no saint to work for - we can all agree on that. But there is no way to justify what Richie did to his friends (the band) and his fans with no notice. He signed a contract for a tour and he broke it.

He cancelled his 2012 solo shows with practically no notice also. I was one of the ones caught in that.

I'm sorry but I can't forgive him for that. I miss his voice in the band but that's about it.
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