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Originally Posted by Jeeper
You're very articulate but my God, you really do labour the point.
So, you are saying Richie has never said "I wrote" (or words directly implying that) when referencing Bon Jovi songs? Because he has.
"I'm the guy that writes the songs" ......"the studio process where I produce the records also..."
https://youtu.be/h4MO92_H1kg
Check around 3:30.
In fact, it's not just Bon Jovi songs. "I wrote a bunch of hits for him, produced the record" .........referencing Alice Cooper in another recent interview.
I agree Jon has also done similar in regards to Bon Jovi songs, numerous times in fact , BUT.....he IS the only one of the two who actually HAS solely wrote a Bon Jovi song. Isn't he?
I'm not suggesting RS is the Devil incarnate, but I, ME, (not you) have seen more recent examples of him being less than gracious regarding BJ than I have of him being kind and genuine.
N.B ....I am not implying Richie has NEVER spoke fondly of Jon/the band or never referenced "we" in regards to songwriting.
I hate being so pedantic but you are so obsessive in pulling people up all the time. (Personal opinion, not fact)
I feel like I should ask a solicitor to proofread this first. : ) |
I'm sorry; and thank you. People have sometimes complained about the length of my posts, but I don't think anyone has ever told me specifically what it was about "all the words" that annoyed them. (Don't get me wrong. They've been specific enough about annoying
opinions; just not about the style. LOL) Although one guy did say that I was difficult to argue with because I had a comeback for everything. I wonder, now, if what
he meant was that I labored the point and wouldn't let it go. Something for me to think about, anyway, so I sincerely appreciate your comments.
No, I wasn't saying Richie had never said "I wrote..." when it would have been more accurate to say, "I
co-wrote..." As you say, he's done that many times. And you're also correct about Jon being the only one who is credited as the sole writer on some of the songs. But he has often said, "I wrote..." when he was talking about songs he co-wrote, too. They have both done that as far back as NJ, I guess. I know it goes back as far as interviews for the first solo albums. Even David said, "I wrote it" when someone questioned why he would sing ITA in some of his shows.
The point was that nobody got upset or assumed that
any of them was taking undeserved credit until after Richie left in 2013. THEN ppl started raking him over the coals, and said he was trying to act like he wrote the songs
alone. I don't think he ever said, or meant to imply that. He was just repeating some of the same comments he had been making for years. The same is true for the other comments people took exception to. There was nothing new in them. That includes the comments he made in the video you posted. I had forgotten about the "lead singer" comment but that one caused a stir, too. Sometimes it was "
the lead singer" and other times it was "
a lead singer"; but if you look at his pre-Jovi history, it's pretty clear that the only time he was "the" lead singer was when he pulled together whatever musicians were available on a given night to play the bars under the name "Richie Sambora and Friends." So it sounds like an exaggeration, but the fact is, it's also true that he did often sing lead in the other bands he was in, not like IBTFY with Jovi, as an occasional fill-in for the lead singer; but he actually recorded the lead vocals in certain songs, and then sang those songs in the shows. (Think Brian May, Keith Richards.)
The reason I asked if you thought Jon was also classless when he made some of the same statements (and some that claimed even more credit) is because a lot of the same fans who thought Richie was an asshole for saying, "I wrote..." thought it was perfectly okay for David or Jon to make the same statements under the same conditions because "
they weren't dissing the band." To me, it seemed like they were on a witch-hunt and just
looking for more reasons to be pissed off with Richie. That was the only explanation I could see since he's been making the same comments since they were all "puppies".
So I wondered if you, too, were holding Richie to a different standard than the one you held others to. A lot of people here have been prone to do that since April 2013. It's probably a moot point, anyway. Captain Jovi made a good point in an earlier post. By now most people have already made up their minds and don't want to be confused with facts.
Reading back over my earlier post, I realized that my questions may have sounded more like an accusation than I intended. It's a raw nerve with me; but I truly was just curious. So I hope you weren't offended.
And btw, I promise: No solicitors required.
04-10-2017, 05:07 PM
