Why do BJ ¢ar€ about the chart$?

letitrock · #21 04-08-2003, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnaB

I think that bj should promote themselves any way they see fit and quite frankly who are we to judge, a true fan will always stand by their band ups or downs but please some of you don't even put them into the same catergory as britney spears or mariah carey. BJ are legends and will be going for a lot more yrs to come but where will these so called other singers be, in the rubbishe pile with all the other washed up singers who have not been able to stick it. If u don't have something positive to say then don't say anything at all so far there has only been one person on this board who seems to be a real BJ fan.

no - a true husband or wife stands by their partner in ups and downs

fans are just that - they are a fan of "something" and if that something goes away they find it harder to be fans

letitrock · #22 04-08-2003, 03:50 PM

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. If u don't have something positive to say then don't say anything at all so far there has only been one person on this board who seems to be a real BJ fan

it's obviously you then

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BJ are legends and will be going for a lot more yrs to come but where will these so called other singers be, in the rubbishe pile with all the other washed up singers who have not been able to stick it.

it's not just singers...

eriK · #23 04-08-2003, 03:53 PM

here we go again...

I'M NO FAN if i'm not entitled to critizes the band! i think that bounce is an ok album, but it ain't more, 50% songs are bad! i have the right to think this...

who are you to judge us?? a fan isn't a person who only opens the mounth and swallow.

and does any one of your releatives now who richie sambora is?

Mike McRock · #24 04-08-2003, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnaB

I think that bj should promote themselves any way they see fit and quite frankly who are we to judge, a true fan will always stand by their band ups or downs but please some of you don't even put them into the same catergory as britney spears or mariah carey. BJ are legends and will be going for a lot more yrs to come but where will these so called other singers be, in the rubbishe pile with all the other washed up singers who have not been able to stick it. If u don't have something positive to say then don't say anything at all so far there has only been one person on this board who seems to be a real BJ fan.

Sorry Mrs 4 posts and I'm the biggest fan in the world!!!!!!!

And you've been on this board how long to decide that there is only one fan????

I'm guessing you are baseing the fact you think you're the only person who is a true fan because you don't have opinions of your own, and think everything is brilliant...... I've always put forward my opinions, but just because I have one, doesn't mean I'm less of a fan. In fact, people like you who like evrything aren't real fans, becasue you don't know what it is you are likely! You're just following blindely, that's not being a fan, that's not truely likeing the music.....

If Bon Jovi carry on writting albums like Crush and bounce then yes, they will end up in the rubish heep along with the Britneys!

The point is, with songs like Right side of Wrong, Bon Jovi are putting themselves into the same catagories as Britney e.t.c. i.e commerciallised pop. I'd sooner they were writting in the old rock style, but they're not....

I woudln't even say it's 50% good..... Undivided is a good song, but I'd say the rest are poor to bad.

Late · #25 04-08-2003, 06:17 PM

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ergh
you used the €

Rather those than the gay pounds.

DonnaB · #26 04-08-2003, 11:05 PM

I seem to have been taken wrong with there is only one real BJ fan on here, i was not referring to me but to an earlier post who seemed to be the only positive person to have to say anything good about the band and there music and as far as only having 4 posts that would be i don't spend that much time on here but on the other bon jovi sites and as far as me being a fan just because i have not been here long makes me no less a fan than the rest of u, infact going by some of ur ages i have been a fan long before some of u were out of nappies so please no more name calling a little childish don't u think. I thought that the person who started this thread was asking us our opinions not to be bashed for doing just that.

Mike McRock · #27 04-09-2003, 12:21 AM

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just because i have not been here long makes me no less a fan than the rest of u

No but it makes your opinion less credable (I feel an earlyer thread reapearing).... For those who have been posting for a while, and have been taking part in lenghtly (and I mean 1500 a post lenthy) debates, there is a sence of what people's opions are, and where they are coming from. So if you start commenting on how big a fan we are, please, you don't know what you're talking about....

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, infact going by some of ur ages i have been a fan long before some of u were out of nappies so please no more name calling a little childish don't u think.

? What name calling.

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I thought that the person who started this thread was asking us our opinions not to be bashed for doing just that.

Oh I get it.... Good = opinion, Bad = not opinion??????
They're not getting bashed, they started a debate, and now people are contrubuting....that's how this place works.... Don't you think it would be boring if topics went like this

TOPIC - BOUNCE IS GREAT
I agree
Absolutely
100% with you
e.t.c e.t.c e.t.c.

we're fans becuase we genuenly like the music.... if you can't apreciate the music, if you don't know what it is about it that you like, then you have to ask yourself are you really a fan of the music? or just some person who follows them like a dog, thinking they're amazing in whatever they do???? That's not a fan in my books.

ugly_queen_from_mars · #28 04-09-2003, 01:07 AM

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Why do BJ still let chart success influence their writing? Why is being in the charts so important to them? Other artists do fine without being in the charts: when did Aerosmith last have a hit single, or the Rolling Stones? As long as BJ have a good reputation as a live band, people will continue to come and see them. I don't understand why commercial success is more important to them than critical success.

i agree all the way. we know what they are able to do as songwriters but they have turned very commercial. and that's what destroying them. but we don't know if they can exist without being in the charts. things have changed in the music industry..... everything comes and goes very fast.

many bands exist without being in the charts

they are still amongst the richest bands of all time (and musicians) - deep purple, even McCartney, Paul Rodgers...

the only difference for BJ would be that they'd be playing arenas instead of stadiums

they exist because they are the ones that led rock music. no record company would decide to leave them out because they don't sell very much. but what about bon jovi?

Mike McRock · #29 04-09-2003, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ugly_queen_from_mars

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Originally Posted by letitrock

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Originally Posted by ugly_queen_from_mars

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Originally Posted by Penrose

Why do BJ still let chart success influence their writing? Why is being in the charts so important to them? Other artists do fine without being in the charts: when did Aerosmith last have a hit single, or the Rolling Stones? As long as BJ have a good reputation as a live band, people will continue to come and see them. I don't understand why commercial success is more important to them than critical success.

i agree all the way. we know what they are able to do as songwriters but they have turned very commercial. and that's what destroying them. but we don't know if they can exist without being in the charts. things have changed in the music industry..... everything comes and goes very fast.

many bands exist without being in the charts

they are still amongst the richest bands of all time (and musicians) - deep purple, even McCartney, Paul Rodgers...

the only difference for BJ would be that they'd be playing arenas instead of stadiums

they exist because they are the ones that led rock music. no record company would decide to leave them out because they don't sell very much. but what about bon jovi?

what about bands like Dream Theater.... and their sound is more leaning towards prog rock, which will be even more unpopular than rock. But they have a record deal!

You don't have to be one of the top 20 earning/selling bands to get a record deal. Bands who play pubs have release albums, so Bon Jovi would certainly be able to carry on.

krb102 · #30 04-09-2003, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ugly_queen_from_mars

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Originally Posted by letitrock

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Originally Posted by ugly_queen_from_mars

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Originally Posted by Penrose

Why do BJ still let chart success influence their writing? Why is being in the charts so important to them? Other artists do fine without being in the charts: when did Aerosmith last have a hit single, or the Rolling Stones? As long as BJ have a good reputation as a live band, people will continue to come and see them. I don't understand why commercial success is more important to them than critical success.

i agree all the way. we know what they are able to do as songwriters but they have turned very commercial. and that's what destroying them. but we don't know if they can exist without being in the charts. things have changed in the music industry..... everything comes and goes very fast.

many bands exist without being in the charts

they are still amongst the richest bands of all time (and musicians) - deep purple, even McCartney, Paul Rodgers...

the only difference for BJ would be that they'd be playing arenas instead of stadiums

they exist because they are the ones that led rock music. no record company would decide to leave them out because they don't sell very much. but what about bon jovi?

what about bands like Dream Theater.... and their sound is more leaning towards prog rock, which will be even more unpopular than rock. But they have a record deal!

You don't have to be one of the top 20 earning/selling bands to get a record deal. Bands who play pubs have release albums, so Bon Jovi would certainly be able to carry on.

but maybe not with defjam...

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