Why do BJ ¢ar€ about the chart$?

as long as it sounds good I'm happy! and I don't think that those new trash bands sounds good.

yeah! goooo batman...
hey, I have found myself a new buddy! cool...
I love batman, and I can tell from you avantar that you does that as well...

In my eyes this isn't the mark of a good drummer. Speed counts for nothing really. Drums are about power, and driving the rythem, and Tico does that for me......
All these new thrash bands have double bass drums, and fast fills, but it doesn't make them good drummers, the oposite in fact....[/quote]

i know that mike but try tell that to the idiots i have to listen to when playing a gig and they say who you influenced by and when i say tico they go on about how shit he is.You me and loads others know tico is a class drummer. Personally i think double bass drum is a poxy way of getting out of using a fast single pedal. Theres only one way to play a double bass drum and its boring. Snare work and cymbal work are def more important i think. Basically TICO!

the 80s stuff did

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ONCE AGAIN, I will reiterate that the "list" in my post. I WAS NOT STATING MY OPINIONS. I WAS REPEATING ALL OF THE DEROGATORY REMARKS I HAVE READ IN OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS. Are we clear on that now? For God's sake, how many time's do I have to explain it?




Mike, are you flirting with me?



I agree. Neurotica is one of my favorites.

But don't forget, Bon Jovi's tours are currently kicking ass, so they have to be doing something right...

ONCE AGAIN, I will reiterate that the "list" in my post.
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But then it moved on away from that, onto David's playing.... You're question "are you pulling the piss" implied that you disagreed with my statement that David is dead wood... If you were reiterating other people's opinions on this matter then you were being very unclear....




Mike, are you flirting with me?

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Do I make you horney baby, do I do I.... do I make you Randy.



I agree. Neurotica is one of my favorites.

But don't forget, Bon Jovi's tours are currently kicking ass, so they have to be doing something right...[/quote]

I think they could kick harder with better songs..... Are we talking about kicking ass in the rocking, fantastic concert sence, or the selling tickets sence..... Kind of a nice link back to the origenal topic don't you think

Sambo Chris wrote: "Because commercial success is important. They make music as their job and want to sell CDs. It's not their hobby."
true. however, bj have sold sooo many records so far, that they could easily live without selling many cds....they've got so much money, they needn't to do anything anymore... :P

Exactly.

Also, Bon Jovi didn't do it just as a job..... nobody really does it..... Does a writter write a play to make money, does a artist paint a picture because it makes him money????? Of cource it does, but if you don't have the passion, the drive, the devotion to your art, then your art is worth nothing! If Bon Jovi were always just a band who could'nt care less about the music, and just used it to make money, they would have never made any money!

Well not really, it all depends on how you use the double bass drums. Some like Portnoy can use them tastefully. Ditto Nick Menza from Megadeth.

I've seen the double bass used well, and I've seen it used as a noise generator..... You have to be bloody good to use it effectively, and some drummers are... The drummer with Dio did a (pushing it) ok job using it. People like Mike Macnhine (Vai) can execute it, because they're world class drummers. As can people like Ginger Baker (who was one of the first right?).... The point is, a lot of the new thrash metel bands just play fast, there is no skill, there is no emotino in teh drumming.... or rather no dynamics. A drummer without dynamics is like a guitarest without a lead, useless.

The point I was making, was that because Tico doesn't do the hundred mile an hour stuff, he's not a worse drummer. I think playing subtley, and using the dynamics is what makes a good drummer, not speed.... It's what you play, not how fast you play it...... All great rock drummers have this, from Ian Paice (the best I've seen) to Cozy Powel, to Tico, they all have the power, but veriety in how they play, and how they create the power. If you play on max speed/volume on every hit, where can you go???? AND DON'T SAY TO 11