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Old 06-03-2004, 09:25 AM
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I love the article, most of it is just the truth, especially the wanting to be a star thingy from Jon.

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Probably written by Supersonic. The way this guy is situating himself up Richie's a$$ and it reads like what he always has to say about Jon. Can't say that I disagree with all of it, but it is rather harsh.
I love you too baby but I didn't write this. And normally you disagree with everything I say, but now suddenly you don't. You're looking schizofrenic and are not what I'm looking for. Sorry.

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On a trip to Sweden he said "The Swedish fans are not loyal." Well, he sure knows how to encourage loyalty, huh?

Made up probably by his so called Swedish friend.
No, he has said that, I think it was on the Crush promo tour.

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Lennon and McCartney. Give me a break! The greatest songwriting partnership in rock & roll history is being compared to Bon Jovi?
1. "All we are saying is give peace a chance" x 1000. "Hey Jude, don't make it bad. Take a sad song, and make it better". Compare that with "The Answer" or "These Days". Greatest song writing partnership? Give me a friggin' break. Lennon and McCartney's songs are no more sophisticated than the average nursery rhyme.
Lennon & McCartney wrote zillions of songs together alone, Jon & Richie didn't, so comparing The Answer makes no sense, plus Richie took ages to write that one, while Lennon & McCartney wrote 10 Hey Judes a day.

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2. My opinion aside, he was clearly comparing the dynamics of their relationship, NOT saying their actual songs were equal or superior.
Says who. Have you seen the special ? I did, and it wasn't so clear he was talking about that specificly.

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Old 06-03-2004, 10:02 AM
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Lennon & McCartney wrote zillions of songs together alone, Jon & Richie didn't, so comparing The Answer makes no sense, plus Richie took ages to write that one, while Lennon & McCartney wrote 10 Hey Judes a day.
10 Hey Judes a day is still 10 shitty songs a day. I'd rather wait for 20 years for someone to write a song like the Answer than put up with that rubbish.

All my point was is that I'll take Jon and Richie as song writers over Lennon and Macca any day of the week. Together or apart, they run circles around those two whether they are writing together or apart. I never understood the attraction of the Beatles. Harrison was an amazing player (I love a number of his solo songs), but the rest of the ensemble was just... weak.

And no, I did not see the special. However, unlike you I can read and understand text (most of the time). It's all there...

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Jon compared the songwriting battles and inner tensions between him and Sambora to the relationship between, wait for it… Lennon and McCartney.
Spelled out in plain English by the moronic author himself. Bold added for the sake of the intelligence impaired.

Unless, of course, author realised that and yet still found it somehow insulting and arrogant. That, frankly, is a terrifying possibility as it shows the author has given WAAAAAAY too much thought and energy to his stupid little crusade.

And while I'm here, I'll reiterate an earlier point in captials, in the hope you realise the truth - WHO THE **** SIGNS A RECORDING CONTRACT WHEN THEY DON'T WANT TO BE A STAR? If you're purely about the music and not the fame and recognition, you can play bars all your life, and pay spend a little cash to record some of your work at a local studio. You sign a contract, you want to be a star. Pure and simple. This is yet another limp attempt to attack Jon. Sorry, better luck next time.
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10 Hey Judes a day is still 10 shitty songs a day. I'd rather wait for 20 years for someone to write a song like the Answer than put up with that rubbish.
Gimme a f**kin break.....shite like the answer is better than Beatles?...
Well I'll put it this way....with the recent efforts, I sure hope Jovi will spend next 20 years writing for their next release :-S

Going in circles? Well dunno what I'd call prayer-its my shite thing then? even u must noice that Jovi as well is running around in patterns to some extend. As mentioned in that, uh, article, those shitty ballads too are quite similar.
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Opinion you child. Look it up.
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Opinion you child. Look it up.
Very original. did ur kindergarten teacher help u with that?
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Lennon & McCartney wrote zillions of songs together alone, Jon & Richie didn't, so comparing The Answer makes no sense, plus Richie took ages to write that one, while Lennon & McCartney wrote 10 Hey Judes a day.
10 Hey Judes a day is still 10 shitty songs a day. I'd rather wait for 20 years for someone to write a song like the Answer than put up with that rubbish.
The Beatles have written more songs then a silly Hey Jude, plus it's not rubbish. It gets more people happy in a live performance then a Joey or Right Side Of Wrong. I'd rather hear 10 Hey Jude's then 1 Right Side Of Wrong or Capt. Crash.

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All my point was is that I'll take Jon and Richie as song writers over Lennon and Macca any day of the week. Together or apart, they run circles around those two whether they are writing together or apart. I never understood the attraction of the Beatles. Harrison was an amazing player (I love a number of his solo songs), but the rest of the ensemble was just... weak.
Being a good player doesn't mean you're a good songwriter.

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WHO THE **** SIGNS A RECORDING CONTRACT WHEN THEY DON'T WANT TO BE A STAR? If you're purely about the music and not the fame and recognition, you can play bars all your life, and pay spend a little cash to record some of your work at a local studio. You sign a contract, you want to be a star. Pure and simple. This is yet another limp attempt to attack Jon. Sorry, better luck next time.
Yes, he wanted to be a star because of the music he made when he signed it. Nowadays he wants to look like a star by doing all the things the author of that piece above mentions, which makes Jon look rather silly and not a star at all. It makes him look like some b-actor going to charities to get some attention at himself.

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The guy seems to be insinuating that 'Blood on Blood' was about the band's relationship, yet if this guy was actually a fan he would of course know it ISN'T! So if he doesn't even know this about one of their most renowned songs, what position is he in to criticise everything else? He's an idiot.
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Because he's not in it for the music. On the Graham Norton show, the following words came out of Jon's mouth: "Truthfully, I got into it for the girls." Unbelievable. "We could have been AC/DC", (yeah, in your dreams Jon) "but I didn't want 10,000 ugly headbanging guys at my shows. I wanted their girlfriends. So the girls came to the show and then the guys came to check out the girls." (I slightly paraphrase here, but if you saw the show, you'll agree that I am not doing Jon an injustice). OK Jon, so if the girls are there because you're a pretty boy singing about love, and you're there for the girls, and the guys are there for the girls, who's in it for the music?"
I don't see what this guy is on about here.. what Jon is saying is that he writing songs that appeal to girls.. not necessarily because he wants to sleep with all of them. Rather than produce straight hard rock and play to a bunch of sweaty headbanging guys, Jon is playing songs that girls (and guys of course) can enjoy and therfore they come to the concerts. Instead, he could have fired Dave and become an ACDC type band.

IMO though, while ACDC are awesome and do what they do well, I'd prefer Jon and Richie to show their diversity more as they have been doing rather than reproduce simular sounding songs over and over like ACDC do. The guy who wrote this can say what he wants but I think it's the other way round with the "in your dreams" thing. I think Jovi would have less difficulty producing ACDC style songs (sure they wouldn't sound exactly like them) than ACDC writing songs like These Days and Wanted that have more complex musical arrangements.
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Sorry Thierry, but Justice seems anything like a blind follower to me! He is not saying Jon is great. But just because he does not say Jon sucks does not make someone a blind follower..
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