Now I'm confused. You've been saying all along that the sets need change, but when you're there you enjoy the show. And now setlists and you being there don't have anything in commom ?

When I say this tour is a complete bore, I'm not talking about setlists alone, but the whole thing. Sure, the shows are still enjoyable, but just a few years ago the shows were not only enjoyable, but something you'd talk about for days and keep revisiting it (hence the show threads reaching almost 800 replies, as Lisbon 2011). Now the feeling I get from the members who post reviews is: it was nice, had great fun, let me get back to work. And that's it. Even at the start of the dreadful 2013 tour we had some good material to discuss here. Now, the WOW moment is Jon going into the crowd.

I'm really amazed as how some people here adjust their level of criticism as this band becomes more and more just a fading shadow of what it was just a few yars ago. (Cleveland 2013 was awesome).