[MrIks from Finland]

Originally Posted by Rdkopper

Maybe it was an April Fools Joke...

Wow!!! In all seriousness, that was a complete disaster... Dan Fan is right... Jon is doing a lot of lip syncing... This is not going to go over well which explains the no screen situation...

https://youtu.be/Fa1O4nRyWUQ

Ok, haven't been here for a while... what is going on, is this a joke or not? That clearly is the album version played on the backround.

[Emma​]

Originally Posted by Thomas S

That's definitely the studio version of the song we're hearing in that clip.

Does anyone else feel kinda sick about this? I thought Jon was the type of guy who would never lip sync and I totally respect that, but now I feel worried that half of the improvements we've been seeing have been faked.

Yeah a little bit...
Surely it hasn't all been fake though. The bad medicine set in the crowd the other night was out of the ordinary, and would have been difficult to fake.
Maybe he's trying to preserve his voice a bit, and because the shows were back to back, he chose to lip sync a couple of songs?

It's still odd how out of time it all was and he seemed to have no idea.

[Emma​]

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

Could this be what those black dots mean on the setlist? The songs that require auto tune or lipsynced moments?

Interesting point... What do the black dots mean I wonder?

[rosa3]

This is what kills me about this board. It seems when you think Jon is doing good you give him praise, and say things like he is back, he has energy, voice is not as bad, maybe better. But god forbid one little mishap like what happened in this show in Mohegan, the sky is falling, he is over, he is done, this tour was all fake! Really? You guys just can't seem to be happy about anything anymore, well, to be fair, not all, there are some here who do appreciate the band and Jon, but the rest are just hell bent on not being satisfied of anything that Jon does on stage, IDK, could someone please help me to figure out why some here just can't simply appreciate what we got with this band now? And lets be honest, all this criticizing that you do about Jon, is it going to change anything? is he going to even respond? I don't think so. I am not saying that nobody should give an opinion about Jon or his performance, not at all, but when your repeating the same complaints over and over again, and hell bent on analyzing every little sound, note, gesture, movement like some tend to do so much, quite frankly its getting old and boring. But I would never tell anyone here to not give your opinions, I learned my lesson on that!

[Panda]

Originally Posted by rosa3

This is what kills me about this board. It seems when you think Jon is doing good you give him praise, and say things like he is back, he has energy, voice is not as bad, maybe better. But god forbid one little mishap like what happened in this show in Mohegan, the sky is falling, he is over, he is done, this tour was all fake! Really? You guys just can't seem to be happy about anything anymore, well, to be fair, not all, there are some here who do appreciate the band and Jon, but the rest are just hell bent on not being satisfied of anything that Jon does on stage, IDK, could someone please help me to figure out why some here just can't simply appreciate what we got with this band now? And lets be honest, all this criticizing that you do about Jon, is it going to change anything? is he going to even respond? I don't think so. I am not saying that nobody should give an opinion about Jon or his performance, not at all, but when your repeating the same complaints over and over again, and hell bent on analyzing every little sound, note, gesture, movement like some tend to do so much, quite frankly its getting old and boring. But I would never tell anyone here to not give your opinions, I learned my lesson on that!

You're acting ridiculous. you seem to be okay with the idea that he is lip syncing - I feel like if Jon pretended he was a dinosaur and made noises into the microphone for 12 minutes and then left you would somehow defend that.

Jon farts rainbows to you. We get it. You know what tape is getting old? The same old script you've written here a few dozen times over.

[bonjovi90]

I wonder how much Jon is paying rosa3 to defend this sort of crap...

In all honesty, this couldn't even have been the backing track. Playing the full studio version over the PA and having the band play on top of it would be especially stupid since they have downtuned it live.
And this even was the "wrong" edit with the altered line that was given to some radio stations but never used live. They can't be that amateurish...

[liljovi93]

Originally Posted by Panda

You're acting ridiculous. you seem to be okay with the idea that he is lip syncing - I feel like if Jon pretended he was a dinosaur and made noises into the microphone for 12 minutes and then left you would somehow defend that.

Jon farts rainbows to you. We get it. You know what tape is getting old? The same old script you've written here a few dozen times over.

Agreed.

Surely that's what makes a good read, Rosa? We praise Jon when he deserves it and say negative stuff when we need too. Nobody wants to be negative. The last thing I want is to see JBJ lip syncing. People pay to see Jon sing, not mime.

What happened is embarrassing for the band. Embarrassing for Jon more so! You can't always praise him or brush stuff off. Tickets aren't cheap and for stuff like this to be happening on a song that he already doesn't sing half of, for me, is a joke.

As I said, we praised the night before more than any other night on the tour because Jon sounded and looked good. He looked like a real front man again. We all want shows like that!

Seriously, if you find it old and boring that we are honest about Jon then I suggest you move on from this forum because it clearly isn't the place for you.

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[bonjovi90]

Originally Posted by liljovi93

Agreed.

Surely that's what makes a good read, Rosa? We praise Jon when he deserves it and say negative stuff when we need too. Nobody wants to be negative. The last thing I want is to see JBJ lip syncing. People pay to see Jon sing, not mime.

What happened is embarrassing for the band. Embarrassing for Jon more so! You can't always praise him or brush stuff off. Tickets aren't cheap and for stuff like this to be happening on a song that he already doesn't sing half of, for me, is a joke.

As I said, we praised the night before more than any other night on the tour because Jon sounded and looked good. He looked like a real front man again. We all want shows like that!

Seriously, if you find it old and boring that we are honest about Jon then I suggest you move on from this forum because it clearly isn't the place for you.

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Absolutely agreed! I also find it funny that you, rosa3, almost never appear in a thread where we're saying good things about the performance (like at the Philly show), but you're always there to bitch about our behaviour when we criticize stuff.

This is a compilation of certain songs from the show:

Bon Jovi Live at Mohegan Sun (April1, 2017) -...

I'm pretty sure I can hear the studio version in the background Roller Coaster as well and I have a feel that it's also played underneath WLOL and Born To Follow here...

On the other hand, LOAP was quite decent by today's standards:

LOAP - YouTube

[symbeline]

I should cry because this is sad, very sad .

But instead I laughed my ass off.

So this is why some recordings have mysterious "technical issues" and can't be released, why others take so long and why Jon is singing so close to the mic

Oh, the irony

On a serious note, this is playing with fire.

[JackieBlue]

Originally Posted by Panda

I wonder if they played Last Man Standing, if they'd lip sync that line

Probably. And with no compunction whatsoever.

I like Jon and I freely admit that nobody's perfect; but I've been saying for a long time that he needs to learn what big words like 'integrity' mean before he starts throwing them around.