[Captain.Crash]

Originally Posted by jovifan93

Where is that in a higher key? To me, it's pretty obvious (in fact almost proven) that he didn't want to lip sync anything, otherwise he would've behaved completely different. In fact, he didn't even notice the track was playing (something else)...

If you watch this video - just the first verse of the song. Then watch any other performance on this tour you'll see the difference

[rosa3]

Not to sound or be too sarcastic, but some here people would be excellent working for the FBI or the CIA, the way people here are able to get specific details and analysis of Jon's vocals and compare with any background tracks at concerts, I think FBI and CIA would appreciate these skills for better use in this world, not for a person's vocals, just saying.

[jovifan93]

Originally Posted by Captain.Crash

If you watch this video - just the first verse of the song. Then watch any other performance on this tour you'll see the difference

Simply not true. The key is the same, the notes are the same. It's just sounding different, since one is the studio version, and one is the live version. Compare again:

Mohegan Sun: https://youtu.be/Fa1O4nRyWUQ?t=114
Dallas: https://youtu.be/65rgscICpZE?t=120

[_KaMi_]

Oh my God, there's no lip sync. They are playing the song live but someone ****ed up and played that track. They're not hearing it and keep playing. The track is shorter so they are not in time after the second chorus, but the rhythm is still the same. They keep playing two bars behind the track till the end because they play at the same rhythm of the track. Someone ****ed up. That's it. As when the sound goes out but the band keeps playing.

[Captain_jovi]

Originally Posted by rosa3

Not to sound or be too sarcastic, but some here people would be excellent working for the FBI or the CIA, the way people here are able to get specific details and analysis of Jon's vocals and compare with any background tracks at concerts, I think FBI and CIA would appreciate these skills for better use in this world, not for a person's vocals, just saying.

So don't post in the threads you don't like. Just saying. You don't have to post your disapproval in threads you don't like.

[steel_horse75]

Originally Posted by _KaMi_

Oh my God, there's no lip sync. They are playing the song live but someone ****ed up and played that track. They're not hearing it and keep playing. The track is shorter so they are not in time after the second chorus, but the rhythm is still the same. They keep playing two bars behind the track till the end because they play at the same rhythm of the track. Someone ****ed up. That's it. As when the sound goes out but the band keeps playing.

Pretty much this....

[CLEYoungGun21]

When it comes to technicalities of a performance, such as talking about IEM feeds and whatnot, I quite enjoy it..


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[Rdkopper]

Originally Posted by steel_horse75

Pretty much this....

What's the point of playing it though???

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[symbeline]

Originally Posted by jovifan93

Hmm, this is getting even more strange than I thought.

After watching this close up clip, you can clearly see that Jon doesn't even notice the bridge is playing, but instead goes back to the mic at the "normal" time and sings the "Coming homes". In fact, they all don't seem to realize it for the duration of this whole clip

I stand corrected. I watched the other video and didn't hear them singing under the studio track. The timing was suspicious, it seemed as if Jon had realized the first mistake and went back to the mic to fix it without being overly surprised that something like this could happen, but now I see that they kept playing and singing unawares.

But then when Jon and Dave point at each other they had already realized and knew they had to do something to go back to being in synch with whatever track they had to be in synch with in the first place, right? That's what I interpreted from the video though I could be wrong, they seemed to fix it only right at the end no?

Anyway, I don't think we were discussing if Jon lip syncs but the possibility of having a backing track to help boost his vocals

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[cqleonardo]

I can hear him singing because he makes some words a little longer than the studio and when the shit hitted the fan they were still "coming home"