I hear you with all the presales, it was a bit of a joke. I guess I can't really complain because I got my tix off the radio presale (100 level 19 rows up) and its the closest I've ever gotten off a Jovi show. The demand for Jovi in Toronto really impresses me. I decided to try and get some better seats for the Dec. show by going to the ticketmaster outlet and hoping for a good number in the draw (didn't work out though). My plan was to go to an outlet about 120 km away from Toronto (st. Catharines) thinking that most people in that area wouldn't drive to Toronto for a show. I was wrong. There were over 50 people lined up by 9AM. Factor in all of the ticketmaster locations within a 120 km radius of Toronto, plus all the presales = lots of bon jovi fans. I don't know what its like in other markets in the US and Canada but in this area we do have somewhere around 5 stations that regularily play Jovi and I hear them on the radio at least twice per day so that probably helps. Anyway good luck getting those tickets, if I had gotten a better set yesterday I would have sold you the 100 level ones!