[Walleris]

Originally Posted by bonjovi90

I personally think he hasn't done himself any good going up there and trying to sing with the already damaged vocal chords he has been battling with the whole tour. Maybe he really got a shot some time before the show and thought he could pull it off. But Matt's tweet has put me off once again:



An honest apology with an explanation of Jon's health issues and why the show was cut short because of that would have been far better in my opinion. But this guy reacts like a spoiled brat anytime criticism may arise somewhere.

Actually I highly doubt that Jon will be in a good enough shape tomorrow and Saturday to go full force for the MSG shows. And these are probably the most precious ones to him on this leg.

Agreed.

MSG shows are the primary shows for the tour and he minimized any chance of getting healthy for them because of his "fighter" ego.

I agree that there was no winner in this situation, which made it a touch choice. And I will never question Jon's heart and willingness to give his all. But when one is faced with tough choices, it's always better to pick the long term-oriented option (protecting his instrument for the rest of his career) vs. short term gains (giving a show for those 15k thousand people in Pittsburgh).

[Gabriel Shoes]

I think he has to understand that, to deliver his best, he needs treatment for his voice.

Like I said previously, if he's already doing or has done, it means it didn't work and it is time to retire.

But the problem with Jon, it's the way he sees him as an entertainer. He thinks that he can jump on the stage, make faces, bring people to sing along - it will make them happy. In part, he's very right, just see our colleague here that was "very excited to be there" and didn't pay attention to the shift in that playback mess, but to other people like me, it will not work if the guy can't sing at all, or can't sing in a level expected to a professional singer that charges a fortune for the tickets.

[Becky]

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

Die hard fans here are a lot of things but understanding is not one of them. I'm absolutely guilty of it sometimes.

Understanding is not a word I would use to describe this group. Had they cancelled because Jon was sick, people would question if it were true, come up with conspiracy theories, ask why he can perform with physical injuries and schedule necessary surgery around tour dates but not play with a "simple cold," and just be jerks about it in general. The man could collapse on stage and at least one person around here would question whether he was faking it. No, I don't have any specific person in mind. I just know how discussions go here.

[Walleris]

Originally Posted by Gabriel Shoes

I think he has to understand that, to deliver his best, he needs treatment for his voice.

Like I said previously, if he's already doing or has done, it means it didn't work and it is time to retire.

But the problem with Jon, it's the way he sees him as an entertainer. He thinks that he can jump on the stage, make faces, bring people to sing along - it will make them happy. In part, he's very right, just see our colleague here that was "very excited to be there" and didn't pay attention to the shift in that playback mess, but to other people like me, it will not work if the guy can't sing at all, or can't sing in a level expected to a professional singer that charges a fortune for the tickets.

Incredibly well said.

[Bounce7800]

I wonder if he was feeling rough a few days ago hence the backing track to support him, but since they cocked it up they have had to do away with it.

No win for Jon really, surprised he didn't bow out with wanted and prayer, would have felt a bit more complete. But kudos for soldering on and a lot of the crowd would be none the wiser.

[bounce442]

Originally Posted by Bounce7800

No win for Jon really, surprised he didn't bow out with wanted and prayer, would have felt a bit more complete. But kudos for soldering on and a lot of the crowd would be none the wiser.

I think just taking an encore after Bad Medicine would make it feel more complete. It's good for everybody. It gives the crowd a heads up and sense of closure. But more importantly, he could sit down for a few minutes and gather his strength. With a break maybe he could have played wanted (the audience sings the first verse after all)... then again, maybe he wouldn't have found the strength to go back out there.

[Becky]

If he didn't do Wanted, he was too sick to do it. That is all you can say. I was at a stadium show that they had to cut short because of weather and safety and he came out and did Wanted early before calling it a night. The sky was green. And in case you don't live in a tornado prone area, that only means tornadoes and probably hail are imminent.

[ThePunisher]

Jon's PR people are the best. They came out right away and basically said "Well at least he played." That's like me going on TV representing a client whole robbed a bank and said well at least he gave back the money.

The whole didn't want to disappoint the fans is rubbish. Why didn't he fight the load in time for Denver rather than reschedule that? I can't believe reading on Facebook and Twitter that people are buying into the he's a warrior and went on anyways bull****.

I'm coming from a position of, if you are sick, cancel instead of going half you know what. I also come from the position in sports where if a guy is injured and playing, he is more of a detriment to the team than he is a help. Just my opinion. I hope this show gets released, I'll listen to it regardless.

[DestinationJovi]

The guy was in a no-win situation. Cancelling altogether would upset some, while cutting the show short upset others. There was no way he'd be able to please everyone.

And there's a lot at stake when a show is cancelled on such short notice. People don't get paid and refunds have to be offered. It's a big deal.

I am sure he thought he could force himself to power through it, but unfortunately realized too late that he just couldn't. And I wouldn't be surprised if the tech error from the previous show was a factor in his decision too. If he had cancelled, no doubt some would have concluded that it was done out of embarrassment or something like that.

I feel bad for the fans that got short changed, but I feel bad for Jon too. He must have truly felt like shit to not even play Wanted.

[Becky]

If you have to travel to any show you attend, pay for a hotel room, and only get 2 personal days to take off a year at work, you appreciate the effort of doing a shorter show over no show. It's not like you can easily and inexpensively book another flight and get a sick note from the artist to keep your boss from docking your pay if you miss another two days for a rescheduled show. So saying that fans are stupid to appreciate the effort is what is bullshit.