8th February, 2017 - Bon Secous Wellness Arena, Greenville, USA

ALWAYS???

He would never do it on the first night of the tour/leg, even when his voice was better. I thought he was a comedian for doing this, but I see positive comments on the performance, so I'm super curious now.

For those who watched the stream (since it's too early for any YouTube vids), how did the vocals compare to Always of 2011 and Always of 2013?

And also, how did he generally sound on other challenging notes, e.g. chorus of Blood on Blood, chorus of Bad Name, verses of Bad Medicine, electric Sat Night, and others?

I told you he would do Always

Anyone got a video? xD

Hahaha. I hope it was.

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5. Born To Follow
6. Lost Highway
8. Working Man
9. Because We Can
10. We Got It Goin' On

Dreadful

If they drop the THINFS songs this tour will be over before it has even started

I just can't. There's absolutely no logical reason for Follow, Workin Man and BWC to be there. Nobody cares about them.

Huge disappointment. If those songs are still in the setlist after all the past fiascos, they are here to stay. I can accept Jon's voice, I can accept that the setlists will be hits + easy post2000 songs, most of which I don't like (all of them tbh). But I don't accept those shit songs over and over and over again for no reason (LH is ok but played to death)

6 songs from THINFS is really great. Until Jon decides that they are not working and instead we get WAN, ILTT, WWWB, Cap Crash and the likes. In the same show.

I know the second part is pretty good, but does anybody really believe that Jon doesn't think the first part is almost as good?

Sorry to be pessimistic but this is the same tour again and I really wasn't expecting it. I can't accept no singles from Bounce but the same shit songs from TC or WAN. They tanked the same. Fans don't care. Get rid of those damn songs for once

He already did this on the HAND tour and to me it was the last strong tour. I know LH and TC tour got awesome songs, but I didn't like how he sang for the most part. The HAND tour was pretty good and fun.

Easy songs (except IBTFY) and would have improved the first part 100%

I just don't understand why he doesn't drop WAN and TC altogether. His "not looking into the past" policy is getting ridiculous. Does he really think that going further than 10 years is going to hurt his credibility as a non nostalgia band? There are plenty of songs from Crush-HAND that are well known and easy to sing. Songs that were regulars in their own tours and have been played since pretty frequently. Is the pre-LH era the new 90s??

​Because I'm a petty loser who has nothing better to do than complain, I thought I'd dig the offline Periscope recording to analyse Jon's vocals after all the praise he's been getting. Overall, I'd say he put of a good fight, but there the vocal chords are gone there are no magic fixes, sadly.

I only listened to the songs I'm interested for this purpose:
- Saturday Night - about the level of mid-2013 which of course is not great, but in 2017 qualifies as 'above expectations'. The "I know I'll get by" was off-key which is expected. David powerful "hey hey hey" is still there. One of the improvements since Richie's departure is that Dave really sings his heart out on this one!
- Blood On Blood - due to added backing bocals it's become an easy chorus for Jon to hide, but on the pre-chorus ("we were so young" part) he struggled quite a bit.
- Lay Your Hands - good effort from Jon, I am actually surprised that Jon even sings the chorus on this one, he should simply skip it and add his "all you gotta do" ad-libs. He sounded decent on verses, I'll give him that. And that long "you" was really good! They should definitely do the drum intro before the song to give Jon a 2-3 minute break (the same reason why David should do In These Arms)
- Have A Nice Day - exactly the same as in 2015 which is a synonymn for 'absolutely attrocious'. Even all the delayed notes is not enough to make it listenable.

Unfortunately the stream ended here I couldn't catch KTF, LOAP and Always. So I'll get back to them later

Sounds like the consensus is the old boy pulled it out of the bag and I'm glad. This heightens the chance of a European tour surely. As for the set list... Meh, night one. What can you expect?

I think most of us are still here because we believe in Jon. He's been the weak link for many years, but we know he's a fighter and he never gives up (there's an Army of One joke in there that I'm not going to make ). I have no doubt he'll fight tooth and nail to give his best. My complain is not about the vocals and it's never been really. I appreciate the effort now, same as I've appreciated it for the past 10 years even though I didn't care about his singing technique from 2008 onwards.

But kudos to him for acknowledging the problem and fighting his way back. I'm sure if he had kept his 2015 voice but improved his alarmingly poor stage presence, he'd be more than fine now. People expect the natural decline of older singers/bands. He wouldn't have the no.1 tour but I'm sure the numbers would be still decent. But he went the extra mile, at least to improve vocally. So yeah, he deserves the pat in the back

Considering I don't like 90% of the regular setlist starting from the HAND tour, I don't expect I'll like it. Not the first show and probably not the majority of the shows on this leg. But still makes no sense to have the singles from albums than tanked, songs that didn't go well in past tours or aren't even on the GH compilation. Nobody is asking for them. There are singles that are easy to sing and have gone well in the past or recent ones that seem to work:

Undivided
The Distance
Bounce
Radio
No Apologies
We Don't Run
Born Again Tomorrow (I think it was a single on some countries??)

Plus non singles that seem to go well:
Just Older
Last Man Standing
LTOR
Water

Do we really need to suffer through WFTWM and BWC? Follow I understand, it's on the GH. Awful song but Jon can justify why it's included. But not the others, considering they have many easy songs to choose from that will go well with the majority of the fans, I can't understand why. And what worries me is that they've been played two shows in a row now. It raises a red flag

What stream are you talking about? I only saw a periscope link with YGLABN and BTBMB and a couple of snippets. Is there another one?

I really want to hear Saturday electric. It's a song that works even with dodgy vocals when Jon gives his all.