A thought on this current tour...

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1. All I Want is Everything wasn't "thrown in", it was played in the same spot every night as a song from the album they were supporting, same way WWBTF is right now.

2. No, each show opened with the same 7 songs, had the same acoustic set, had very similar ends to the main set, and very similar encores.

You mean the shows that are exactly like I described to you? basically same main set as the rest of the tour, with longer encores? (And 1 of 2 shows that tour opening with Helter Skelter) Thank you for proving me right about the sets.

No I didn't say that, you can can eat my words "mate." They have more energy than The Lost Highway tour.

ANOTHER FACT: They've downtuned since the Keep The Faith tour. Everything was a half step during the These Days tour and on the Jersey tour, you'll find plenty of downtuned Living In Sins and Living on a Prayer. Your argument of downtuned just got dumped on.

Call me a blind followers? You're just as blind as anything, you just see it in reverse. You're so blind, as a matter of fact, you haven't seen a show on the Circle tour. Oh.. and more together means "tighter." Quote me where it makes more sense. "Tighter" is what we in music circles means more together. When Jon strums that acoustic guitar you think is so unrock and roll, Tico's beat is exactly with him, Dave and Hugh are in sync with damn near perfect tiiming, etc. It's hard to explain to someone that obviously has no music knowledge whatsoever. You're owned by pretty much all of us. You sound like a kid trying to argue with his daddy to buy him candy, but isn't getting his way so he keeps resorting to the same lame attempts. Massive fail.

There are so many more things to say about your side.

I will judge the show when I see it in June. Its different when your there than just watching on you tube. I always have a few beers and get carried away, having a good time.

On all accounts the band is on fire, more so than any tour since 2000.

A lot of the die hards on here have said what a great show it is at the moment and that is good enough for me. Well I would rather believe them than someone who has had it in for the band for years and who hasnt actually seen the new show.

Question: Do you start getting on my nerves with your constant setlist bitching: YES!!!

I don't deny that they were at the peak of their career on the TD tour. Setlists and shows have never been more intensive than in the mid-90's.
But you use the argument that you saw those shows, which many of us didn't do, and therefore can judge about that. Then why don't you accept if people say that the current performances are really passionate and the band's on fire nowadays? You haven't seen the current shows, so, if I follow your argument, you shouldn't judge about them. I also think there should be more mixing when it comes to the sets every night, but that doesn't do anything about the very good performances they recently delivered.
If you think BJ doesn't fulfill your expectations anymore, then it's your opinion and totally ok. But then why trying to be the knowing-all-wise-guy and trying to teach other people lessons, just because they enjoy the band live?

Don't ask the past to last, it's about to change...

I think it would be more appropriate to compare two European shows with thow European shows - the set are always better in Europe, especially in Germany.

I don't understand what's your point. You are repeating over and over that the band was great in the 90s. I think everybody knows that. You just can't admit that some people are enjoying the shows even today. Well, it's a fact. At least they are touring US - something that didn't happen with These Days, whose tour was only in Japan and Europe.

I agree with you, that the last setlist were the same, no rotation and it really pisses me. But I can't deny that, even if they played the same set as the night before, might played a very good high-energy show, which the fans enjoyed. Remember that the majority of fans sees the band once and they are fine with that. And remember that almost every band has static setlist. I know you love Queen, I love them too but the played the same set for the whole tours. And because Bon Jovi decided to include the moving screens and make the show more organized, they are playing it safe the way they have it tried out. Do I need the screens there? No. I'd be much happier when there were no screens and all of the special effect if they would play more varied setlists. I can't do anything with this. Believe me that I don't like the seltist that much, because they are not changing and I hate the first part of the set after opening songs, which is very boring but I must admit that there are parts of the setlist which I really like the way they are performed. You have no proof for your "facts". It is easy to write off the LH tour because you don't like the album, but when you don't attend any show and don't listen to bootlegs, you can't know whether it was good or not. And even if the HaND album is milion times better than the country crap on LH, the HaND tour was much worse.
And it really doesn't make sense to bitch about it all over and over again. If you like U2 shows better, then fine, go and enjoy them. But I don't see the reason to spoil someone's good memories from recent Bon Jovi shows. You have admit that every person is different and like different things. And beleive it, there are some LH lovers (unbelievable, right? ). And sadly, LH was quite successful in US (it was meant for this market) so the band plays many songs from it. They have always played the popular songs. And when the lame US crowds response better to LH song then to classics, it is logical for the band to play them. They played the hits and favourite tracks from SWW and NJ on my beloved Jersey tour for the same reason, the first two albums had only one song each in the set - because they weren't as successful. But I think there were diehards wanting to hear Hardest Part Is The Night again, since it's a great song. And we could continue this way forever. The band reacts almost the same, it the audience, I mean the big casual audience, which has changes, the chicks in 1980s are grown up housewifes who appreciate something different now. And rock and roll music is loosing its position so I think we should be glad for what we have - still a big band, selling records (less now then earlier), touring and selling out big venues and still able to present at the mainstream scale, which is changing.

And none of those shows was a US date, BJ always has different setlists for the US and Europe. It's no secret that Europe gets better sets with deeper catalog songs, so if your bitch is the setlists so far why worry they haven't crossed the pond yet.

Really, dude? Comparing US setlists to Europe Setlists will prove zero point.

Feel free to prove how "All the songs are downtuned this tour" and how Bobby had all the solos last tour..? No?

That's not what I'm arguing. I'm arguing that you're writing off entire tours based on something you haven't seen. The point is being made that there's a passion behind the performances that hasnt' been there in years. Don't give me this "I was at O2 so I can talk about the LH tour like I was there" crap. That was the very beginning of a tour, you WEREN'T there. I'm not commenting on the actual performances of the tour because I haven't seen a show yet, but I'm WAY more likely to beieve the die hards here than you; a guy who goes out of his way to just be annoying and ram his opinion down everyones throats.

For the record, there's been a lot of changes since last tour. New Opening song, Raise your hands/Just Older/a few other regulars have been dropped in favor of other tunes. Your big beef is how the LH songs are still around which is a personal preference and certainly nothing to write off an entire tour because of. You can't say NO ONE wants to hear them if you'd have been there to see how well they go over.