[danfan]

Originally Posted by luceknight

29. Captain Crash and the Beauty Queen From Mars

Yeah, because that's what we all want to end the show.

[danfan]

Originally Posted by Javier

and frankly he shouldn't the dude's 48 years old.

Why the hell not? Steven Tyler still does it, and I dare say, Jon's in better shape than he is.

That's right - Steven Tyler still tours because he enjoys it.

[bratlugs]

Originally Posted by danfan

Yeah, because that's what we all want to end the show.

Actual lol.

Dave

[Jonty]

To respond to where these comments are coming from......they are based on watching the live feed two nights ago, many you-tube videos of the tour so far and over 75 Bonjovi concerts in the last couple of decades. Now I agree that as Jon gets older he may not prance around as much but that doesnt stop Steve tyler/Mick Jagger etc. Nor does it mean playing so many songs on guitar. We have Richie as lead guitarist in case anyone has noticed! He may have soloed on Sleep When Im Dead but actually he and Richie soloing at the end of Thorn in my side is a lot more fun + its a new song!!! They played 4 songs from the Circle. The album is 12 songs long and its The Circle Tour.......i dont want to hear it in its entirety but 6 or 7 songs from it would be nice......hence the get rid of Lost Highway songs and Who Says.
It was claimed somewhere on here that die hard fans complained when tehy played teh older songs like Roulette etc......id say that is bollocks. Hearing those songs again were amazing. Are they not playing them now cos they who do not know them head to the bar or the toilet....well if thats the case, thats where people go all the time no matter what the song!! Captain Crash, Whole lot of leaving, you name it, people go to the toilet during these as well so sod the majority, play some of those old songs (whats teh point of rehearsing and relearning them only to play them a few times!!). I am not going to add positives to the show until I have been to a circle show. However, yes his singing is a lot better this tour again, the set and lighting looks awesome with the screens but like i pointed out last year with U2, just cos you have a fancy stage (the claw) that doesnt mean you are going to play a great gig!!! There are a lot of positives re Bonjovi but a true fan can see were improvements can be made and besides........its only a personal opinion, like everything which is written on these forums!!

[marta anna]

Originally Posted by Javier

Jon playing guitar has shit all to do with the shows energy. He doesn't give out those aerobic instructor moves performances since the Bounce tour, and frankly he shouldn't the dude's 48 years old.

Originally Posted by danfan

Why the hell not? Steven Tyler still does it, and I dare say, Jon's in better shape than he is.

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Why not? here is probably the answer:

YouTube

6:42-6:55

OK, a knee problem is also something that Aerosmith had to face. But it is Perry not Tyler who is affected by it. So Tyler can still jump on stage, as much as he pleases.

Besides, don't you think that maybe Jon is not running so much so as to sing better and hit the high notes? It is easier to master your voice when you do not make so much aerobic on stage!

[KeepTheFaith2211]

Originally Posted by marta anna

Why not? here is probably the answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADojXvowYMA 6:42-6:55

OK, a knee problem is also something that Aerosmith had to face. But it is Perry not Tyler who is affected by it. So Tyler can still jump on stage, as much as he pleases.

Besides, don't you think that maybe Jon is not running so much so as to sing better and hit the high notes? It is easier to master your voice when you do not make so much aerobic on stage!

No, because there aren't many songs where he actually has to hit high notes.

[severo17]

Originally Posted by marta anna

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADojXvowYMA 6:42-6:55

Jon changes 12 songs a night on multiple shows in one city!

[marta anna]

Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211

No, because there aren't many songs where he actually has to hit high notes.

1. OK, it is not just the matter of being able to hit the high notes. It is the matter of just singing better. You breath better and sing better if you do not run much. You can make an experiment - run up staircase and try to sing whatever you wish. Believe me, it would be harder and the performance would be worse while running and jumping! I tried it myself!


2. When you have had a torn cartilege and needed a number of surgeries for it it is not a good idea to jump like crazy on a hard surface (like that one on stage). It means asking for trouble. I am not an expert but I am active jogger and swimmer. I am therefore roughly familiar with basic sports injuries, dangers and precautions. Jon must keep his knees healthy for the next 2 years of touring so that not to cancel shows. It therefore seems quite reasonable to avoid the most dangerous stress factors and give up all that jumping on hard floor.
I am really fine with it when he keeps fit through his training in the gym and translates that fitness into nice harmonious and toned movements during the show. I do not need him bouncing and jumping and leaping and making somersaults

[danfan]

Originally Posted by marta anna

OK, a knee problem is also something that Aerosmith had to face. But it is Perry not Tyler who is affected by it. So Tyler can still jump on stage, as much as he pleases.

Please. Steven Tyler is 137 years old, has been declared legally dead 12 times, done enough drugs to fill up every CVS in New York City, fell off the stage and broke his shoulder, sings much higher notes than Jon, and still swings around on the stage like he's trying out for Cirque De Soleil.

[marta anna]

Originally Posted by danfan

Please. Steven Tyler is 137 years old, has been declared legally dead 5 times due to drug overdoses, fell of the stage and broke his shoulder, sings much higher notes than Jon, and still swings around on the stage like he's trying out for Cirque De Soleil.

Hm... probably he is superhuman?