April Tour Setlist

james_d · #21 01-16-2022, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavi

You should have stopped dreaming about those things a lot of years ago

Let us be optimistic Xavi 😂

efpg0708 · #22 01-16-2022, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocket

I think like most, I would prefer the majority of the setlist to be taken from older material (for me, Bounce and before) but I'm realistic. Jon and/or the band prefer to play a decent amount of the more modern material.

Given Jon's struggles with his voice, I wonder if that increases the chances of seeing David sing In These Arms. I've enjoyed the live recordings I've seen online and the version on Lunar Eclipse, so I'd love to see him sing it live. It would probably be sensible to let Phil X take the mic for a song and I wouldn't mind if he played one of his own. Hell, why not let Tico sing Only in my Dreams?

Another thing I'd enjoy that would help with Jon's voice which someone else also mentioned is extended versions of songs. I thought Keep the Faith was one of the highlights of the drive-in gig. I'd absolutely love extended versions like they used to play on the New Jersey tour, particularly Blood on Blood, but I think that's pretty unrealistic. I imagine Jon sees that stuff as a thing of the past when they were younger and Alec and Richie were part of the band.

I'd be very happy if they played some rarities from any pre-Crush album, or failing that from Crush or Bounce. I'd also love to see Jon on the harmonica at the end of BTBMB or These Days like he used to do, but I imagine that's also a pipe dream.

Hey, I can dream!

Am I the only one that thinks that David has a bad singing voice ? I can’t stand to hear him singing.

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fanofrem · #23 01-16-2022, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by efpg0708

Am I the only one that thinks that David has a bad singing voice ? I can’t stand to hear him singing.

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I don’t like his singing. He is to high in the mix in concerts. And his voice on In These Arms at Rock In Rio is even worse than JBJ at his worst.

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Elvistico · #24 01-20-2022, 09:36 PM

He doesn't sing bad, but I don't like the tone of his voice. He's a bit Elton John'ish.

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Am I the only one that thinks that David has a bad singing voice ? I can’t stand to hear him singing.
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Elvistico · #25 01-20-2022, 10:33 PM

That's an accurate analyses. He can still hit the highs but he's doing it seldom. Probably cause it's asking a lot of his vocal chords. Most of what he sings is mids and indeed his pitch got very bad in that range. The only way BJ was able to do 2,5 hour shows was by pacing the songs so that the high key songs were evenly spread along the setlist. Now that's gone. We'll see the band do shows that won't go over 2h now. Still OK cause not many bands play 2h shows, but us BJ fans were spoiled by long shows.

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Originally Posted by blazeofglory

Exactly this. The main issue with his voice isnÂ’t his range, itÂ’s that thin and shaky tone and since the middle register is the weakest part of the human voice anyways it gets particularly bad in that register. IÂ’d even go so far and say that the strongest part of his voice nowadays is still his upper range because heÂ’s forced to change his technique and project his voice more when he wants to hit the high notes.

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Elvistico · #26 01-20-2022, 10:35 PM

I believe that's true. I don't expect any surprise.

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Originally Posted by vasovasilev9

I truly believe our biggest hint for the tour setlist is the "Drive-In" show from the last year. So I guess the setlist is going to be something like this on 90 %

01.Beautiful Drug
02.Do What You Can
03.You Give Love A Bad Name
04.Born To Be My Baby
05.Limitless
06.We Weren't Born To Follow
07.Lost Highway
08.Who Says You Can't Go Home
09.Story Of Love
10.Bed Of Roses
11.Let It Rain
12.It's My Life
13.Have A Nice Day
14.This House Is Not For Sale
15.Just Older
16.Keep The Faith
17.I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
18.Bad Medicine
Encore:
19.Wanted Dead Or Alive
20.Livin' On A Prayer

Elvistico · #27 01-20-2022, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bj4ever

I know the songs are tuned half a step down live (some like ITA are even more), so I was wondering why they haven't tried a full step down for all the songs to see if it would help.

I'm no vocalist so I have no idea but I'm surprised this hasn't happened yet.

Lowering keys takes the power out of songs. ( Yes, it's not cause a lot of heavy metal has D or even C tunings that low keys are equal to power)

Especially for guitars - tuning half a step to one step down is acceptable, but lower will make guitars sound bad. To go lower, it would mean songs would have to be transposed into complete different keys with different chords, but then again, some riffs would have to be played on different strings and it would make them sound completely different.

So - there's a limit to lowering the key of a song. AND - Jon's problem is in the mids. So it wouldn't really help a lot.

EDIT: Actually : Jon has been singing many songs a full step lower - problem is : the band still plays only half a step down

LOL

Elvistico · #28 01-20-2022, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Javier

I'd love for them to get deeper into the Crush album tracks. Stuff like Next 100 years, Two Story Town and Mystery Train and less likely One wild night. Also Captain Crash and I got the girl have been played by this lineup last tour. I'm on a crush kick, I've never been negative towards it but its a better album than I've given it credit for in the past....

With Shanks in the band, the only thing they'll dig in deeper are songs that Shanks produced. HAND & everything after.

Captain_jovi · #29 01-20-2022, 10:55 PM

I think time will tell but the fact that the only "new" song rehearsed was Just Older gives me some real hope.

bonjovi90 · #30 01-20-2022, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvistico

With Shanks in the band, the only thing they'll dig in deeper are songs that Shanks produced. HAND & everything after.

In this case, I think the only one to blame for them not digging deeper is Jon. They played a shitload of rarities on occasions in the summer of 2013 when Phil had just been in the band for 2 or 3 months. And they played a bigger variation of songs in 2015 with the Phil X and Matt O'Ree.
I'm not sure I'd want them to do Just Older. It was one of the songs Jon had already struggled with the chorus in the better years and if now stands side by side with Shanks in the front and sings:
"When we took on the world
We were young and brave
We got secrets that we'll take to the grave
And we're standing here shoulder to shoulder"
...I'll be gone from here for good

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