August 18, 2017: Bon Jovi Endicott, NY

This. That's why I think he needs to take a step back and take care of himself for a while. Then, when he's in a better place physically and psychologically, decide if he even wants to do this anymore and if he does, in what format.

Maybe the reason he sounds better in the RT shows, to my ear anyway, is because on some level that's his preferred setting. He's always said that his love is songwriting; and here lately, I get the feeling that sometimes that's the only reason he does all the rest of it.

Cheers 😉 You dumb asses don't seem to want to or be able to answer though 😂.

Will ask again anyway...may stop you moaning about the same shit over and over again:

Don't you think Jon would be better off doing his acoustic stuff (Stand Up Guy sort of stuff) and acoustic Jovi renditions? Bryan Adams did a great Bare Bones tour (Ok, you can't compare the voices), Springsteen did a great acoustic tour,...

I think it's about time you 'intelligent' ones face up to the fact that Mr Jovi CAN'T live up to your expectations 😉

I already touched on that further back

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People have discussed that ad naseum. Acoustic, watered down Bon Jovi songs in lower keys don't sell. People don't want their memories tampered with. Would he be better off? Yes. Would it it satisfy the masses? No.

Back in '03 they did half electric and half acoustic type shows...

I think it's time for a well needed change...

Do the uptempo songs electric, do some of the harder stuff acoustic, and really pull out some rarities that Jon can sing for the diehards... I'd love to hear some DA stuff... Little City would be a cool choice of song... Better than songs like The Fighter...

Bottom Line... He's decent with the new stuff so he should leave about 5 or 6 songs in the set. He should pull out some rarities that he could handle like Labor of Love or Little City for the die hards... Keep the big rock songs electric like IML, HAND, WGIGO and then acoustic the ballads... Even this sounds so much better!!!!

I wish I could be his adviser...

If I was at this show, I would have been thrilled with this setlist.

I know many won't agree, but I'd take These Days, IBTFY, ITA, BOR and Saturday Night sounding like this as opposed to not at all.

When you're there and hear it live, you don't realize just how shitty Jon's voice has become.

I fully believe the lack of showmanship and movement is 100% because of the state of his voice. He is gripping that mic and focusing on attempting to hit the notes, so running around and interacting with the crowd is just not an option for him. It's definitely a strike against him, but I think he is doing the best he can with what he has left and this is all he is now capable of.

The decline in his range and the loss of Sambora's backups are a bad bad combo.

But I still love this band and would be very sad if they called it quits.

Are we sure it's THAT bad? Any chance we're overreacting? Oh never mind. Maybe it's just that I don't want to believe it.


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It ain't that bad the first video of these days sounded awful because we were hearing the sound off his monitors which sounds always bad believe me I'm a professional singer. Watch this one ain't that bad for a guy who has vocals problem he has balls for sure

https://youtu.be/TTSS3oWdYdk

That is much better, actually.

Still not great. Vocally weak on the lower parts rather than the higher which is a bit strange but I didn't turn that off like I did with the minute snippet the other day. Definitely an improvement but still tons of room for more improvement.

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Back two pages i wrote the same thing and check other videos from user....well its not that bad