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Originally Posted by Supersonic
Aloha !
I'm not selling my tickets because they're just a part of the holiday. However, there's no way that these setlists have convinced me to buy tickets for shows closer to home. They're not worth the amounts of cash they're asking for it.
Unfortunately it's you who doesn't understand that a fan in Glendale has the same right to a rare song as a fan in Wichita. All this talk on how the band can't play 10 rare songs in the first 10 shows because they'd be showing all their cards is bullshit. There's currently roughly 60 shows planned and the band have over 60 songs that either haven't been played at all or haven't been played in a long time. And that fan in Glendale can't buy anything for the "we'll play the more rare stuff later in the tour because we're not willing to show all the cards just yet".
Bon Jovi have over 250 different songs of which only roughly 20 songs appear every night. That'd mean there's 230 different songs to pick over a tour of appearanlty 135 shows. If they'd play a rare song every night they'd still not be showing all their cards, and the fact that they/Jon are/is not willing to do so is a big **** you to all the die hards that keep showing up every tour.
Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan
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I just knew that someone would come up with that. And of course I could expect it would be you
I don’t think that set lists are bad right now. They are very good. And I am sure they will get even better. The only thing they should change are the numbers of LH songs per night that should be limited to minimum. So fans in Glendale or Wichita should be satisfied in my opinion as much as those in Hawaii or in any other city so far or yet to be visited. If you they want more, they should buy more tickets. At least they had a privilege to hear them in their home town. I have to travel half of Europe to see them, so if it’s not a problem for me (a guy from a poor country in Eastern Europe), for sure it shouldn’t be a problem for a die-hard fan in US or Western Europe. For me the biggest reward is to hear them live, no matter what they play as this is the band I love the most.
Do you really think that lack of 2 rarities would ruin your show? For me it wouldn’t. Besides every die-hard would love to hear a different rarity. There’s no such thing as a ‘rarity that every die-hard would love to hear’. And only because something is not played very often it doesn’t have to mean it should only because 10 or 1000 die-hard fans would love to hear it. And what if Jon decides to play the song that you’d love to hear on the show you did not attend? Would it count as rarity being played? Yes. Would you experience it? No. It’s just a matter of statistics to me. Let’s say that each show gathers about 20 000 people. On this board we have about 400 die hard fans. So let’s imagine that all of us go on the same show and I could bet all that I have that half of us would not hear the songs they love the most. After spending few months over here I realized how our music tastes about BJ songs differ, and yet we still talk about the same band. Moreover those 400 die-hards would only be 2% of the total attendance of the show. So what do you think Jon should do? Concentrate on die-hard fans and play 25 rarities to fully satisfy them (and even if it were 25 rarities someone would bitch that he/she did not hear his/hers favourite one) or play mostly hits to satisfy those 98% of the audience? I have said it before, in my opinion Jon does not have a simple task with making the set lists. There’s always going to be someone disappointed. And he’s choices for rarities are just lucky shots. Some die-hards would love them, and some still wouldn’t.
Another thing is that Jon and the band also want to play songs they enjoy personally. For sure there are songs he doesn’t feel anymore so he doesn’t want to sing them. And there are loads of rarities on that list for sure. And I don’t see any force that would make him sing them. And I don’t blame him for that. He wrote them and each songs means something to him. Some are more important and some are not that important. So he has the right to decide what he wants to play, even if some fans won’t like it (because again – some will enjoy it too).
But the thing is that you will be disappointed only if your expectations are to high. If you really think that you would hear your personal TOP 25 songs out of 250 you have mentioned on one show, you must be really out of this world. Everything starts with your expectations. I for example want to hear TC songs, the more the better. And my favourite KTF of course. And that’s all I expect. The rest is just additional pleasure. I’d love to hear These Days, Dry County, Something To Believe In, Undivided, Dirty Little Secret, Santa Fe, Ballad of Youth or Always, but I realize that it won’t happen, at least not all of them on one night. You have to be realistic. And of course when you look at my list above it doesn’t have to suit your dream list, and probably it won’t. You will have your own dream set of rarities. So let’s say that we both go to the same show and Jon plays mine and not yours. Would you be disappointed? Probably yes. Would that mean that the show was crap? For you maybe yes. But for me it wouldn’t. So objectively it wouldn’t be a bad show with a bad set list.
So just to sum up, if you want a perfect show start saving 2 million dollars and invite the band to your town and in the agreement underline that it’s you who decides about the 25-song set list. Maybe then you would be satisfied. But probably you wouldn’t because then you’d start bitching that they want to much money from you or that Jon’s vocals are not as good as yours.