Bon Jovi in Holland according to a Dutch concert promoter

Just like Jovi at Hyde Park a few years ago.... Sigh....

And what happend there in 2008 becaouse you have that prices listed there? Looks like in 2008 fron row was like 65 euros and the last row was 50... Small difference. This time they try to sell last rows for 30 euros so they balanced it with more expensive front rows...

Aloha !

That's done so more people will join the Bank Lottery here in Holland. You can sign up for 3 months and get a free ticket, yet many people will forget to sign off and leave it running for the rest of the year. The promoter first said the Bank Lottery has 20.000 tickets to give away, then later it was anounced somewhere that they'd have 50.000 tickets to give away.

In 2008 they played a stadium. The promoter has said that it's a lot more expensive to organise a concert at the beach, yet when Bon Jovi played a show in the middle of a small town of Holland in a park tickets cost even less than what I'm showing on the example.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Hey Seb, I 'm not trying to be an argumentative prick, but the promoter is right about a few things at least in my longwinded opinion.

Bad math, a 100% discount is free, more than a 100% means he is paying you to go. I once saw a TV news reporter say that murder in our town was down 200% from the year before. When I called the station and told them that was impossible, they were confused, so I explained that for murder to be down 200% from last year not only could there be no murders this year but all the murder victims from last year would have to spring back to life.

OK, the tickets are really expensive but they have to be alot more than a stadium.
A stadium already has all of the following which are paid for over time by thousands of events.
1.) Bathrooms to service 80,000 people
2.) Electric service capable of running all the lights, sound, cameras, etc of a major concert.
3.) Facilities for backstage, artists dressing rooms, crew dining facilities, which include running water, sanitary facilities, air conditioning, etc.
4.) Staff who regularly work at events in consessions, security, ticket taking, sanitation.
5.) Contracts for trash removal and hauling, dumpsters
6.) building permits for all of this along with safety inspections and all the associated fees, architectural drawings.
7.) walls (ie: fences) and barricades so they can control crowds and entry, etc.

Plus they need other things not needed at a stadium
8.) lifeguards, you don't need those in a stadium, but you can be damn sure the insurance company requires them at an event with alchohol at a beach.
9.) Insurance for a completely new type of event with 80,000 people will be insanely expensive.

If the tickets are too expensive for people to want to buy them that is a different issue than the promoter having to charge alot more money than a competeing venue might.

At a traditional concert the promoter deals with the band and venues all the time, usually arranging the entire tour for a country (at least over here). They sign a deal to pay the band 10 dollars for the show and they pay a venue 6 dollars to host the show and then they sell as many tickets as they can to attempt to make a profit. The band and venue are costs that don't change only the revenue generated.

This beach promoter guy sounds like a real maverick, in addition to paying the band and renting the beach (which might be very cheap), he has to build a facility, put together a staff and afterwards tear the whole thing down again. The venue cost has to be at least 5 times what a stadium rental costs (here in my town the permit for the temporary electric installation, is a little more than half what renting our local arena costs, and that is only the permit to have the work done). Plus the entire venture is at least somewhat speculative, he is gambling that enough people will spend a bunch of thier hard earned money to come see a great band in an unproven new venue in rough economic times. Sounds like he is betting an assload of his (and Bank Lottery's) money on the hope that Bon Jovi can drag 80,000 paying customers to a beach party, and that it works out well enough that he can learn enough from his mistakes to do it better next time around.

Just food for thought, sometimes our natural reaction to something being expensive is that we are being ripped off, but that is not always the case.
Dave

Considering the fact that 3 bands will perform that day (2 dutch ones plus Bon Jovi) it's understandable the promotor asks more money then average.
Then again, when my brother and I attended a rock festival in 2008, the prices of the tickets were 65 euro for a festival day that lasted from 1pm to 23pm with nothing but big bands, not some average local band.
The park where the festival was organised provided room for about 40.000.

I can understand if the promotor of this beach event would ask €100,00 because it's an exclusive event and as you said, it costs a lot more then a concert in a stadium.

€ 190,00 makes as much sense as the banks giving out big bonusses again

I salute you,
TS

Aloha !

Hehe, yeah I meant at least 50%. Was confusing 100% with 100E. It'd be nice if he paid me to go though. I'd like to have a special entrance as well.


I get what you're saying, however, Bon Jovi played at a park here in 2006, as do many other artists. When Bon Jovi played at that park tickets cost 64E, just like they did in 2008 when they played a stadium. It's very common to have concerts in the open air here, there are many festivals in Europe, all done in the open air. A 4 day ticket for one of the biggest festivals in Europe costs 180E and it gives you Pearl Jam, Muse & Green Day (and many, many others).

Further on I'd like to add that they do free festivals here in Holland as well, one that attracts over 100.000 people every year. They'd have to book the same things for that as for this Bon Jovi show, so although I get what you're trying to say, it doesn't make sense compared to other events. And this one even includes a big sponsor, unlike the show in 2006 or 2008.

There's been a Dance Fest here, on the beach, for which tickets roughly cost 70E. It wasn't at the exact same beach, but it just shows that having a show on the beach doesn't really have to be thát expensive.

Yeah, I know what you mean. But these ticketprices are pretty much the highest prices anyone has ever asked for any show. Just to compare; The Rolling Stones asked 100E at the same location on which Bon Jovi played and asked 64E. It's that much out of line.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

What happened to "the O2 shows are the only European shows we'll play this year so please buy multiple tickets?"

Come on, you know it´s all about money.

The band members of any band see they stuff like a job...

Relax and enjoy the Jovi Music!

Aloha !

It just gets better every day. Bon Jovi management has denied that Bon Jovi has signed up for this festival, yet tickets will go on sale tomorrow and promotion for the event has already started. The whole thing sounds fishy to me.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Damn that sounds like a scam. But how stupid would that be to try to steal from 100,000 people who know where you live. I mean Holland isn't China, somebody will find you. That is esentially buying yourself at least 5000 good ass-beatings.
Hope it's a real show and not a scam, I was kinda tihnking of going.
Dave