Bon Jovi in Lisbon, Portugal - 26 June 2013

Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa

I have seen them every tour, but being 100% honest, did not pay attention to who is closer or a straight line which this member to that, etc. I honestly couldn't give a flying fu*k about the position of the band members and it has no bearing on my critique of a show. But, if that is one of your important elements for a band to be seen as a band then more power to you.

Originally Posted by DevilsSon

Hah, the dismissive tone comes through even in writing. Well, as somebody who pays most attention to the actual 'performance' rather than 'entertainment' aspect of a show, it does bother me. And of course it makes a difference between a solo show and a band show.

I don't see many solo acts simply because of that reason - I need to see the guitarist, the drummer, the bass player - they are usually as important to me or more important than the singer. When I saw Richie live last fall, it was him in front of a bunch of session musicians who knew what their place was. It was an obvious solo show and there was a clear line between Richie and the rest. That was never the case with Bon Jovi before the Lost Highway tour. Granted I haven't seen them on this tour, but all I hear is that it's more and more of a Jon solo and I can see why. The only interaction before was with Richie. I doubt he interacts with Phil that much. Compare that to the 'triple-attacks' on Blood on Blood or Runaway when Alec was still in or the early days with Hugh.

Anyway - again, whatever the reasons for Jovimini's posts - they are not inaccurate. It is Jon and his musicians. And no, it's not disrespectful to Dave and Tico because that's how it looks and feels like.

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gCmkGIGVSE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qUHzfzirQQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewIsOyYDRqY

These things have been lost, the gangway is not used. Richie is gone. I hope Richie come back soon and everything will return to be as before.

Originally Posted by DevilsSon

Hah, the dismissive tone comes through even in writing. Well, as somebody who pays most attention to the actual 'performance' rather than 'entertainment' aspect of a show, it does bother me. And of course it makes a difference between a solo show and a band show.

I don't see many solo acts simply because of that reason - I need to see the guitarist, the drummer, the bass player - they are usually as important to me or more important than the singer. When I saw Richie live last fall, it was him in front of a bunch of session musicians who knew what their place was. It was an obvious solo show and there was a clear line between Richie and the rest. That was never the case with Bon Jovi before the Lost Highway tour. Granted I haven't seen them on this tour, but all I hear is that it's more and more of a Jon solo and I can see why. The only interaction before was with Richie. I doubt he interacts with Phil that much. Compare that to the 'triple-attacks' on Blood on Blood or Runaway when Alec was still in or the early days with Hugh.

Anyway - again, whatever the reasons for Jovimini's posts - they are not inaccurate. It is Jon and his musicians. And no, it's not disrespectful to Dave and Tico because that's how it looks and feels like.

Originally Posted by Roxannah

just a few notes before bed, as i'm leaving for Spain in the morning (not going to Madrid's show, though ).

i had already lowered my expectations so i wouldn't leave disappointed. i'm not really the type of person to complain and i'm generally easily pleased, not too demanding, etc. you catch my drift. am i surprised to say i still managed to leave the show incredibly disappointed.

- the show lasted 2h15. i could tell it the encore would be short, as Jon seemed totally burned out after Bad Medicine.

- no audibles were added to set. what you see in the encore, is what we got.

- Bed Of Roses wasn't played, but In These Arms was. In These Arms was one of the few moments the crowd seemed to be awake.

- this was by far the lamest crowd i have ever experienced. i'm still puzzled. was i really in Portugal? it didn't seem like it at all. absolutely freaking lame.

- sound was terrible. there were times the sound was good, there were times we could hardly hear a thing. all during the same song. in fact, i can not remember the last time i experienced such a bad sound overall.

- surprisingly, Because We Can was very well received.

- many songs fell flat, if not most of the set. Water, Radio (i was the only one who seemed to know it where i was), What About Now, Superman Tonight, We Weren't Born To Follow, What's Left Of Me.

- Richie was extremely missed. Phil did a great job but no, it didn't feel like a Bon Jovi show. still, had the crowd and setlist been better, that would could've been easily overlooked.

- ah yeah, no Buick. too big? it's a freaking park!

all in all, by far the worst Bon Jovi show i've ever been to.

Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211

If we're talking fair then they should play the same setlist every night.

Originally Posted by Jovimimi

I think the crowd was lame about everywhere this tour in europe ..i know it is not really lame but the crowd is NOT into it at ANY SHOW to me Portugal is not different don't blame your people I feel like they react with what they get ..it is well done (no mistakes ) it is a good set but it is NOT the usual bon jovi ... the crowd react to that - everywhere ..never I felt like wow that audience was nuts ... I thought the pit was strong in prague for example but the rest of the stadium was like under some sort of coma... Jon begs for reaction all the time and he WORKS HARD for it but it is just not working (just like the cell phone 'thing' yeah you may get a good photo of it but it is after 10 minutes after he asked for it ... its NOT instant reward at all ) I DO FEEL SAD for Jon and his musicians, they keep smiling but you can feel it's not a happy tour