can u use fanclub card to get into gold standing instead?!

FYI - The note they put up on Backstage actually seems pretty clear to me:

"it will get you in the front area if you don't then you may have access to the front area with wristbands depending upon capacity."

Hence, the Gold ticket will get u into the front area, and they may give out wristbands to those who don't have gold tickets depending on capacity.

Ronseal Woodstain - Does exactly as it says on the Tin. Anything other than this (I.e: there'll be a separate area for wristband / FC members) is in fact speculation, differing from what the Backstage guys have told us.

Hence - cheaper GA tickets + FC card = Gamble.

Jeez i didnt realise my post would cause such an arguement! still not tickets 4 h.p got wolverhampton and old trafford.

Thank you - i rest my point.
Emma

I'm not taking sides or anything, 'cos I hate it when u two fight Emma & Anu - theres no need for it really;

But I was just wondering what part of that 'cryptic' message u don't understand Anu?? - It seems pretty clear to me.

Mike

Well I think credit is due for staying optimistic.

I'm not sure about your points on the 'Ifs' & 'Mays'. They r saying If u have any concerns, read the following message. (We all had concerns, so we did). Then IF u purchase VIP seats (ie. U don't have to buy them.) Many of us did - then it will get us into the front area.....Hence, I bought them, so I will have access to the front area.
Last If - 'If u didn't buy them' then u may have access to the front area. This is probably the most cryptic bit. However the sentence 'Depending on capacity' sort of clears it up. U will be granted access to the front area if u didn't buy VIP tickets, only if u have a FC card & it isn't full up.

From what I hear this is only happening in the UK. But it does seem as if the FC r getting a bit of a raw deal. FC members could be in an inferior position to Gold Ticket holders.
But you've got to bear in mind that the majority of Gold Ticket holders will be fan club members - they'd know about the tickets straight away (through regularly checking the FC site) - They'd know about the VIP tickets (Through checking the tour date message on the site). & only FC members will have made money available & been able to buy straight away, as they have known about the impending tour dates for some time.
Hence I think the Gold Tickets have both an adv. & a disadv:

Adv: U don't have to get there 8 hours early or whatever to get access to the pit (only if u want front row) - u r guaranteed this even if u turn up 20 mins before the start.

Disadv: U have to pay an extra £10.

Mike

That part is exactly the one that I thought was kinda cryptic, that fan club members who didn't manage to get Gold Tickets will only be able to enter the pit if there's room in there, if the capacity allows them to enter the pit. The message itself isn't of course cryptic, but the implied meaning is -- it doesn't take much to conclude from that message that fan club members who used to be the privileged ones might end up in an inferior position this time around. And that is something I personally don't like at all.

Yeah, AFAIK there are no Gold Tickets sold anywhere else than in the UK. Only time will tell, though, whether or not those Gold Tickets really mean that the UK shows won't have any proper fan club arrangements... Like I said in the previous post, it could also be that Backstage are kinda "watching their back" when they're telling us to buy Gold Tickets and trying to make their and BJM's upcoming job easier. If all or most fan club members had Gold Tickets, there would be no extra hassle about the capacity of the pit and whether or not the pit is big enuff to accommodate all Gold Ticket holders as well as all fan club members. And there would also be no extra hassle in distributing the fan club wristbands for the early entry if all or most fan club members had Gold Tix.

A British friend of mine who tends to be slightly on the cynical side when it comes to BSWJBJ did suggest some time ago that the reason they're not telling us anything more about the European/UK fan club arrangements is probably that there's not gonna be any fc arrangements on the next tour... But, well, like I again said on the previous post, I think it would be very stupid of them business-wise to take away the fan club benefits they offered us on the OWN Tour. Even if it was just in the UK. There are probably hundreds if not thousands of fan club members in the UK, and I can't see how Backstage could run the risk of losing MANY of those members if they decided to give up fan club arrangements just because of these Gold Tickets.

Well, those fans who do want to try to get to the front row will still have to queue from silly o'clock...with or without Gold Tickets and with or without a fan club membership. But yeah, for those fans who just want to be in the pit the Gold Tickets might be a good thing.

Also, I was just watching U2 in Slane Castle tonite on Finnish TV and it made me think about the upcoming stage set-up. What if...what if the Gold Tickets aren't actually tickets for a regular pit area but for something like U2 had on their recent tour, the area inside the catwalk? There are rumours flying at least in the US about some type of a catwalk construction, so who knows, maybe there was some real reason why the Gold Tickets were so much more expensive than the regular GA ones? Then again, in if that was the case, there should've been Gold Tickets available at every venue throughout Europe and not just in the UK. I guess we won't know that until the day of the first European stadium show. Since the US winter leg shows are all in indoor venues, we might get a completely different stage setup for the European tour, just like what happened on the Crush & OWN Tours.

In any case, the European tour is still some six months away, so we probably won't know it in quite a while what kind of arrangements -- if any -- Backstage has in store for us for the Bounce Tour. It would seem very odd if Backstage suddenly decided that the UK fans or the European fans in general aren't worth any fan club arrangements, especially after what they offered us on the OWN Tour... I know for a fact that the Jovi crew worked very hard on the OWN Tour to make it all work, and when the first few rows of the pit were filled with fan club members, the crew and the band were happy.

Ok, I have to join in. Personally, I feel that the combination of Gold tickets and fc membership can't provide any further advantages. In other words, I don't see that early access for fc members holding Gold standing tickets will happen. That would, IMO, be unfair to the people who bought Gold standing but don't have the fc card. (Being the holder of both, I think I can safely state so!) In that case, for the arrangements to work properly, there would have to be separate gates for Gold tic holders and GA people. Then, in order for the fc arrangements to take place, there would also have to be separate gates for fc members holding Gold tix, and fc members holding GA tix. I just don't see this happening, it would be too much of a mess.

So, what I see is that there will be a gate for Gold tix, a gate for fc members with GA tix, and then the regular GA gates. First, they let in the Gold tic holders, then the fc people with GA tix into the pit, and the GA people in the GA area, if there is no more room in the pit. So, I think that if you bought the Gold tic, you should be given priviledge over fc members, or at least not be given disadvantage. But this is all speculation, and I believe that we won't know anything definite until one or two days before the shows.

I just hope they have thought this whole fc/Gold standing/GA thing through... I think that we are up for a lot of misunderstanding, miscommunication and uncertainty, unfortunately...

I didn't watch the show, what was the U2 staging like?

JoviLaura