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Old 06-19-2013, 05:27 PM
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This is from today's Cleveland Plain Dealer newspaper-

http://www.cleveland.com/popmusic/in...jovi_conc.html
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Here's an article about the cancellation posted on the Clevleland Plain Dealer website... http://www.cleveland.com/popmusic/in..._entertainment

Another article hit the nail on the head as far as the reason tickets were not selling. This was supposed to be a football promotion - a family event. Not many families can afford to spend the day at an event with Bon Jovi ticket prices. The very people the concert was promoted to -- the Cleveland Browns fans -- were probably only mildly interested in the music. The true Bon Jovi fans were probably tapped out from the concert at the Q in March or had already made plans to travel to one of the close locations (Chicago, Detroit) which were announced months ago. http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index..._is_an_op.html

I'm still disappointed -- I had third row pit seats
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...is absolute bollocks!!! Does anyone actually think that? What About Now is manufactured soulless rubbish that should have never seen the light of day. It screams mediocrity from head to toe. There is ZERO artistic integrity in there. It just uncreative middle of the road crap. Art requires a bit of creativity, a bit of exploration, a bit of pushing boundaries. None of that you can find on What About Now.

While some people may say that Aftermath is also rubbish (quality wise), nobody thought it was manufactured or soulless. This is where the 'artistic integrity' comes in. Even that version of Taking a Chance on the Wind with Ann Marie Calhoun has more 'art' to it than all songs on What About Now combined.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl_2vbV3SfM

So yes, there is A LOT more artistic integrity from Richie than there is on What About Now. A little bit is obfuscated by production, the rest you might not like. But comparing the two makes zero sense.

It's funny how I always thought you were somebody with an objective perspective on things Captain Jovi. I think I said it before, in the last year or so I think you made some very odd remarks. Not that having any credibility with me matters even a bit, but certainly, that's something you lost.
Aftermath was one of my favorite albums of 2012, I played the hell out of it. Even yesterday I listened to it twice. I never said it doesn't have artistic integrity. That's not my point. I'm asking why Richie, the guy that has worked just as hard to make the last decade and a half just as poppy, turned a blind eye to and Jon blamed? There's this misconception going around that Richie got fed up with BJ's pop sound and walked when he had a lot to do with the formulaic sound.

AOTL is miles miles miles better than WAN to me but if this was about artistic integrity I don't think it would have been as poppy, negating Richie leaving BJ's pop sound to make a pop album. Genuinely sorry I lost some credibility with you. You're one of my favorite posters.

EDIT: Something happened with Richie as the 2000's passed. He used to have such artistic integrity but he became the rock star cliche he seemed like he was so against in the 90's.
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Richie co-wrote the pop songs we're hanging Jon for though. AOTL, while having far more solos than WAN, was just as radio friendly as BJ. What gives him more artistic integrity?
This is exactly what I thought. I am not crazy about WAN but AOTL was way more poppy or radio friendly than I expected.
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:43 AM
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Disappointing news, but I wasn't shocked in the least when I heard it.

A stadium show with no notice was an absurd idea.
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Piss me off! I had great pit seats and just booked my expensive, non-refundable airfare on Friday. I could scream.
That really sucks. I hope you can get some sort of refund, exchange, or something with the plane tickets. Unless you have family in Cleveland I can't think of any reason to go there other than to see the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame. Maybe try to go to Chicago instead?

This is disappointing, but I knew they had no chance of filling that place. It would've been better if they replaced it for the Q arena, especially if they've sold less than 20k tickets so far.
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:28 AM
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This is exactly what I thought. I am not crazy about WAN but AOTL was way more poppy or radio friendly than I expected.
This was my feeling, too. To me, it says that Richie still wants his music to appeal to the masses. Not that masses of people buy his solo music, but...maybe he always holds onto hope that one of his solo albums will 'break through' the way so many Bon Jovi albums have.

Which is too bad, because, really, I would love to see Richie do an album of stuff like he did on YouTube with Ann Marie Calhoun, or even something in the vein of 'singing on the street' like he did for VH1's Tip Cup. It would only sell among Richie diehards, but that's who his audience is, whether he likes it or not. The fact that Richie even records this more organic stuff at all shows that he has artistic integrity (I truly believe he's a musician's musician). But I also think his success in Bon Jovi, chasing the bid to be relevant and popular, and apparently succeeding with stadium tours --that's heady stuff and is probably addicting, once you've experienced it.

Except now, for whatever reason, he's not playing the stadiums (he's letting Phil X play the music Richie wrote and frustrating what diehard fans he does have). He's also not promoting "Aftermath" or any alternate musical vision he might have for himself. Yet, he says he's an "artist first".

This still makes zero sense to me. *sigh*
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I think I've read all or most of this thread, but in case I missed this, I apologize:

http://www.ohio.com/news/big-radio-p...rates-1.408009
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