Columbus Setlist

Has anyone hear whining about these setlists actually attended a Bounce show yet? I have and it was incredible- right up there with the The Rising shows I attended and better than the Stones and they were awesome. I have now seen Bon Jovi four times total. You may want to reserve judgement until you get to see a show this tour- the whole really is better than the sum of its parts which you all seem to want to nitpick to oblivion.

I was there in person and Eve of destruction and KTF were played and Runaway was the first encore.

Also, of the 12 times i've seen them live, i would rank this as THE BEST.

The crowd was absolutely phenomenal.

yes, but a band can't be better than it's set, if you play crap songs, no matter how good you are, it will amount to a bad show.

I know people on here think they're great, and I though MK was fantastic...BUT, I could still highlight about 40 mins of the concert that was rubish (i.e Say it isn't so, I got the girl, captain crash e.t.c). The point is, I've been looking forward to these concerts, every time the band tour I hope they get their act together, and come out with something like they did in 96. The fact is, from these set liste's theyr'e not doing. I like a band to be a little risky, well this is the no risk wagon at the moment!

Also, how many other live bands have you seen? For anybody who's seen Deep Purple, or Vai, or Yes do a show that grips you from start to finish, with no drop of, no lapse in the intenstiy, and brillaince of the show, well Bon Jovi's half a concert seems much less impresive. I could probably just say, 'hey, it's only 40 mins', if my concert experiances didn't have me demanding those 40 mins are as good as the rest of the concert. It's about standards, and I'm going to hold mine high. I'd love for Bon Jovi to meed these, but the fact is with the rubish they're playing at the moment, they won't do.

These are your expectations and opinions though. It does not mean that the shows and songs are in fact, rubbish. That is simply what it is to you. The fact you would refer to Jon doing "I Can't Help Falling In Love" as a low point says alot about your tastes.

Your definition of adventurous, from your other posts, is apparently playing songs from much older albums as opposed to the new album. You also apparently think they are a metal-lite band and should be writing new songs that sound like 1989 and Jon should be screaming as opposed to singing. You bitch about them playing Captain Crash and Say It Isn't So on the Crush tour. Similarly you bitch about them playing material from Bounce on the Bounce tour. You know...normally a band at Bon Jovi's stage focuses on playing 20 year old songs and one or two new songs from the current album....you call that adventurous? I call that living in the past. Bon Jovi must focus on the here and now while still covering their entire history. The fact is, they do pull surpises and play songs that aren't neccessarily on Crossroads or within the last 3 years.

Bon Jovi hasn't neccessaily gone the way I'd like for them to go, but I'm glad they still play the majority of their new albums while on tour for that album. That is how it should be, like the album or not. I hope they keep that motto till the day they go out because when its all over, I'll look back at their performances over the years and realize they have played nearly all of their own catalog live over the years with each tour.

Well, I disagree. It is easy to read a list of songs and make assumptions about the show but all you are seeing is a list of songs. You are not hearing the crowd, feeling the vibe in the building, hearing the vocals or smoky jazz piano which were so incredible on My Funny Valentine, or seeing the interaction with the fans and the energy. Bon Jovi transforms just about any material and makes it their own- and also different in that moment in time. Just Older was decidely different with mixing up of the lyrics than I had ever seen it. Always was beyond words and I never thought I would hear it live. I didn't even notice Keep The Faith wasn't included until someone pointed it out- I didn't even miss it at CAA. So stop worrying about the scorecard- this is rock and roll, not a football game. Let it lift you up and enjoy!

you're forgetting he is hearing the crowd and feeling the atmosphere because he spend all his money going to concerts all over the UK all year round, and he's seen BJ numerous times live in the past...

you have to remember that BJ is a band that began in 1983, not in 2000... and not even in 1993/94/95...

i for one don't call it being adventurous no... i'd call adventurous being to play songs from the 80s yes, because people barely seem to know they exist... i'd say its adventurous to play a song like homebound train or hardest part is the night to see the reaction from the 2000+ fans yes...

it really annoys me when people say stop living in the past, they have to play new stuff, and stop criticising the old stuff...

well i've seen a lot of the fans on here say how much they dislike the 80s stuff and while i might post with a "wahhhh - listen to such a such a song" i don't go on the offensive like you [not you ^^^ guy above you] do...

adventurous is also: calling anyone who is in town onto stage up for a jam... walking through the crowd from the back to stage in lenin stadium moscow dressed as a KGB officer... playing around with the structure of the songs, and the way the lyrics are sung... 'flying' back towards the rear of the arena do play i'll be there for you on an acoustic platform in the middle of the crowd... sticking the microphone in the faces of the front few rows to sing parts of the song... playing different setlists each night with surprise guests, yes screams for example at end of i'd die for you make the song x1000 more powerful...

unless somethign drastically happens i will be saying the same thigns...

it goes without saying the band are great live... but i'll be seeing the same thing i saw in 2001 and 2000 at this rate only with more bounce material than crush

I think letitrock has said just about everything there! I'd just like to ad to the bit about hte band live. I'm not disputing that it will be good, just not as good as the other bands I'll be seeing this year. You talk about the vibe, and the crowd, well this is what live music is about, it's not unique to Bon Jovi. I'm sure I will enjoy the shows, but I'd enjoy them a hell of a lot more if the band were lifing their game a bit more. Plus, if I can't get into the music, then I wn't enjoy it, and the crowd will just anoy me! Bon Jovi can potensially be terrible live, I've seen them on such an occation, and just because hte crowd still get off on these bad performances, doen't make it a good concert, or experiance. if anything, it just upsets me that people are accepting less than 100% from a band that the're spending a lot of money on!

As Tom said with respect to the set, they're not being at all risky. Playing the new stuff is playing the stuff that you're guarenteed that everybody will have heard. The new fans will know it, becasue it's the only album they have, because it was in the charts along with Robbie Williams and Westlife, and the fans will know it because theyr'e fans, and will buy albums no matter how bad they are. They also usually stick to the singles, which is anoying. Even with Slippery, Faith, Jersey, it's all songs they released. They certainly should put a set together without thinking about sales, or what the crowd will know, that's what taking a risk is. Bon Jovi are taking the easy option, and are predictable because of it. Sure, there is the odd Raise you Hands that finds it's way in, but these are only odd songs in a best of set list.....

If you play from a new album, you play the good songs. The fact that Bon Jovi are playing so much of the albums shows they have little confidence in the audiance, and are working of the asumption that everybody's heard the last two albums, which is true.


Again, Tom gave some great examples of how the band used to be adventurous, and cutting edge.... what do they do nowerdays???? All I can think of is building some crappy Empire State Building thing on the set, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the concert, or the music!

Well it sounds like you need to find yourselves a new band then because nothing they will do will make you happy. BTW been a fan since 1984 when I heard Jon interviewed about Runaway on Pierre Robert's radio program on WMMR in Philly. I only started seeing them live in 2000 because I had my children between 1988 and 1992 and there were other priorities. I know well their history, having bought Slippery When Wet on vinyl perhaps before some of you were born- LOL! Oh well, complaining about set lists seems to be a way to spend time here so whatever floats your boat- I prefer to enjoy the concerts this tour because who knows when there will be another one.

you do that