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Originally Posted by Roll
Well, when I read some guy explaining that people want the real stuff after he gave up on fans who had bought expensive tickets to actually see live the real deal, I certainly question this guy's common sense.
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The only conclusion I can draw from that is that you must also question the common sense of everyone who has said, in one way or another, that "it's just not Bon Jovi without Richie" because he only said what a number of people think. And that number includes not only quite a few of the fans on this board, but many of the people who reviewed their shows.
Bottom line: Just because you disagree with people's behavior - especially when you have no way of knowing their motivation - doesn't mean they're stupid. It only means that, just possibly, you are jumping to conclusions.
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Originally Posted by Roll
The thing is we all know what a mess Richie. As we all know why he left: because he couldn't stand being in Jon's shadow anymore.
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No, we don't know either of those things. We can only assume.
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Originally Posted by Roll
As for the 1 year end a half, I wasn't referring to Richie's departure but to the date of the article I was reacting to. Kisses.
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Well, then here's another lesson for you: There's no way I could know that you were referring to the article because,
just like you, I only know what I read. And I came to the wrong conclusion because I incorrectly assumed that I knew what you were thinking and why you posted what you posted.
See how easily that can happen?
Mwahhhh!
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Originally Posted by Supersonic
Aloha !
Yeah, I agree. After 4 Bon Jovi tours during which he was the biggest liability, his inability to actually learn the songs when going on tour, his inability to actually get a tour together, his inability to get a decent band together, his inability to properly promote his own stuff... There really isn't any reason to be amazed at how stupid Richie can be...
I'm actually amazed there's still people who defend his choice.
Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan
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Well, gee Sebastiaan, when you put it that way... it becomes painfully clear that, in this particular situation, you don't have a clue in hell about the point I was making.
First, I've read a lot more about what a great liability Richie was on the last 4 tours since April 2013, than I ever read while those tours were going on, especially from you. In fact, IIRC, your opinion then was typically that it was Jon's lack of interest, declining vocal abilities, boring setlists, or whatever other burr had gotten under your saddle at the time that presented the biggest liability.
It's only been since Richie disappointed the fans that such a glaring spotlight has been focused on the insufferable ineptitude you and others apparently think he demonstrated during those tours. Keep in mind, too, that the fans' beef with Richie didn't come from his action as much it did from the fact that since they didn't know his reason(s), they assumed he didn't have one that was good enough to justify what he did. Many fans said it would have been okay if he had done it for the "right" reason.
Second, there are many people in this world who have all of the same "inabilities" you listed, but that doesn't prove that they're stupid. Some, in fact, are quite brilliant!
As for your parting shot, if you're referring to me, let me remind you that at no point in that post, or any other that I can recall, have I defended Richie's choice(s). I've never said that it was right for him to walk out on the tour; just that I believed there must be a good reason why he did it.
The only thing I've defended, from day one, is my opinion that people judge unfairly when they do so without having all the facts, which we just don't have in this situation and probably never will have. My opinion is one you apparently don't share, which is fine; but it's really not necessary to show your own "inability" to interpret a simple post in order to prove it.