European dates ideas?

I understand that and economicaly it makes a lot of sence. But wouldn't the same line of thought appply to bands like the Rolling Stones, U2, Bruce Springsteen, ACDC or Metallica?
And nevertheless these bands continue to play world wide tours in stead of the 3 majors markets BJ keeps playing tour after tour.

Also if the currency is their motivation, why don't they do indoor shows in Europe in stead of doing them only in the US. Like I said, for instance, ACDC and Metallica play both indoor and outdoor gigs in Europe and sell out both. Given the american dollar has been bellow Euro for a couple of years now, shouldn't they have been doing more and more shows in Europe and less and less shows in the US?

I wouldn't be surprised since they haven't even announced promotional dates yet. Usualy the tour is announced right after the promotional shows - which will probably be in London in the weekend prior/next to the album release date.

So I woundn't count with tour dates any time before November 9th.

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Yes, but those bands can sell out way more venues than Bon Jovi can nowadays, and the band you just listed still get a kick out of playing arena's. AC/DC did an arena tour because they wanted an arena tour. All over Europe they were asked to do the stadiums, but they told promoters they'd play shows for a maximum of 10.000 people or so. After the arena tour was done, they started their stadium tour. The same goes for Bruce Springsteen, he plays where he wants to play. Bon Jovi only plays in a country if they at least can get a certain amount of money for a show.

Exactly. Because Bon Jovi refused to play Sweden again if they wouldn't get to play in a stadium. The same goes for many other locations. Now that the Euro is much more worth than the Dollar is it doesn't matter that much to them anyway. They get their x amount of dollars for a show anyway when they bring the Euro's to America.

Because indoor shows in Europe aren't where the money is for Bon Jovi. America is different, in America they could easily sell tickets worth of 150 dollars. They'd never get away with that in Europe, it's just not going to happen. The same goes for the Stones. They do tours in America because arena's are where the money is for bands. 300 dollars per ticket is "normal" over there, while there's no way the Stones would sell a ticket for 300E here in Europe.

No. Like I said, Bon Jovi only want to play the stadiums. They got 1.000.000 Euro's for 1 show in Amsterdam when it wasn't even sold out (about 80% of the tickets were sold). If Bon Jovi don't get a certain amount of money, let's say 1 million dollars, they won't play there. That's the deal they make with the promoters. Now that the dollar is worth a lot less they can play a stadium that holds 30.000 people instead of the regular 50.000 people and still bring back 1 million dollars based upon converting the 750.000 Euro's they bring back to America, hence them playing Helsinki and Oslo. Don't forget that it's not just the shows, but the travelling to Helsinki and Oslo for just one show is way more expensive than the travelling through Germany.

The same goes for Australia. My dad once drove containers with stage gear for Robbie Williams that got on the boat to Australia, and that trip alone cost over a 250.000 Euro's based upon insurance and travelling costs. That takes a lot of shows to make up for it. Travelling Australia is very expensive. You do 5 shows at a place as big as half of Europe, so you need to be sure it's financially attractive.

An example; The Acer Arena in Sydney holds 21.000 people. That's 21.000 x an average of 60E per ticket = 1.260.000 Euro's. Of this amount of money an average of 15% goes to the band, a certain amount of money goes to the promoter, stage builders, etcetera etcetera. So let's say 10% goes to travelling costs = 126.000 Euro's. So that doesn't quiet cover the costs yet, does it? It only becomes financially more attractive once the band does multiple shows at the same venue, and I think that if the band had known that they'd sell out their shows as fast as they did, they would've planned the Australian tour way different than what they did last time, because they could've made a lot more money there than they did right now.

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