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Old 03-12-2018, 04:16 PM
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I am talking about the verses of BoR not the chorus.
Chorus of BoR has high notes.
BoR verses doesn't really have any high note at all (E3 - C4).
Think about it again, Jon singing BoR verse let's say the first verse. It's basically the same way as talking but with different notes and in a more "singy"
way.

What I am saying is that it's possible for him to pronounce the words during songs like when Richie still was there, as good
pronunciation as when he talks in an interview.
I am not saying that he's gonna hit an A4 or any other very high note as easy as talking in an interview.

Mouth, tongue, teeth, etc has to do with the way you pronounce not vocal cords (Except note/pitch).
Vocal cords aren't functioning differently compared to when talking unless if you use the normal falsetto, the airy one causing less cord closure.

Anyways I think he might be focusing a bit too much on how he sings. Him being at the mic stand too often and really focusing on doing it very good. Maybe a bit less of focusing on that means that he'll sing better (Sao Paulo).

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Old 03-12-2018, 04:28 PM
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I am talking about the verses of BoR not the chorus.
Chorus has some high notes.
BoR verses doesn't have any high note at all (E3 - C4).
Think about it again, Jon singing BoR verse let's say the first verse. It's basically the same way as talking but with different notes and in a more "singy"
way. It's a bit hard to explain.
I get what you are saying, but when you are talking you don't need to worry about singing the melody or keeping in tune with the band. It's like comparing walking to rock climbing.
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Old 03-12-2018, 04:39 PM
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Yes I agree with that.
Imagine talking but thinking of the notes you hit when talking, keeping in tune, etc.

If richie didn't leave and none of the bad stuff such as overdose happened his pronunciation, etc would very likely be like let's say 2010. Voice would be slightly different though I am sure (No matter if nasality used or not) Even same stage presence as let's say early 2013.

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Old 03-12-2018, 10:57 PM
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In Sao Paulo he actually successfully hit the correct note for "Bed of nails" which is G#4 (Bed Of Roses is downtuned 1 half step live) live and in studio it's A4.
In the original key, the note Jon hits at the "BED of nails" part is actually Bb4. The drop of half a step makes it A4 live.
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Old 03-12-2018, 11:17 PM
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Jon doesn't want to hit anything above G#4 for a too long time as I can see.
Was actually excluding the highest "Nails" though.
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Old 03-12-2018, 11:35 PM
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Yes I agree with that.
Imagine talking but thinking of the notes you hit when talking, keeping in tune, etc.

If richie didn't leave and none of the bad stuff such as overdose happened his pronunciation, etc would very likely be like let's say 2010. Voice would be slightly different though I am sure (No matter if nasality used or not) Even same stage presence as let's say early 2013.
I think that if Richie didn't leave his stage presence would be worse than early 2013. After all, Jon is getting older and he can't have the same stage presence he once had in the glory days.
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Old 03-13-2018, 12:09 AM
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Possibly something like both late and early 2013.
I didn't really see many crowds at all being excited during the concert, just stand still most of them.
Except South american leg.
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Old 03-13-2018, 12:11 AM
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Possibly something like both late and early 2013.
I didn't really see many crowds at all being excited during the concert, just stand still most of them.
Except South american leg.
Yes, the South American leg of the tour had the best crowds.
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Old 03-13-2018, 12:24 AM
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Jon doesn't want to hit anything above G#4 for a too long time as I can see.
Was actually excluding the highest "Nails" though.
It's not that he doesn't want to. It's that he simply can't hit long notes above G#4.
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Old 03-13-2018, 12:28 AM
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If thats the case his throat would probably itch or something causing (For example cracks) him to stop that part.
If he stays away from STBI or some similar song with those high notes he's probably not needing to sing above G#4 again.

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