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Old 12-25-2007, 05:06 PM
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Although I understand your frustration, the band will be playing Australia to promote the Lost Highway album,
So in Australia they are promoting the LH album and in Europe the GReatest Hits set - yeah right!!!
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THe never play anything from 7800.

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* New Jersey- Stick to your guns (definately a rarity and can be still sung)
Nope, it's way too high for Jon nowadays.

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* KTF- Dry County (A MUST- A DREAM WISH FOR SYDNEY 200, Bed of roses (Orginal), If I was your mother (trying not to be too hopeful but thats such an awesome song if Jon can still sing it), I believe.
All too high for Jon to sing, maybe washed-out versions might be played.

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* From Crossroads- Always (original)
Too high.

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* These days- Something to believe in (another favourite), Lie to me, This aint a love song, Its hard letting you go.
TAALS could be if it wasn't too high for Jon to sing. The rest won't happen. I'm not even sure if there is a band version of It's Hard?

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* JBJ Solo- Destination anywhere, Santa fe (this is a fantasy- i definetly wouldnt put my money on it- never been sung live and i dont think it ever will be, unless Jon is game enough to try after 18 years lol).
DA was no hit, it won't be played. And Jon couldn't sing Santa Fe even if you'd cut his balls.

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* Richie Solo- Father time (best song by Richie), One light burning
Nobody knows those songs. Richie will only get to sing a "hit". Be it their own or a cover.

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I really do think 95% of my above suggestions are achievable
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Also, another point to the band, please and I say please, dont sing TLFR versions of Bed of roses and Always.
There's a reason they sing these versions. Jon just can't sing the original versions live anymore.

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What I actually from you is only list of songs that could possibly be played as rarities,
It's really hard to make such a list. Jon can't even sing Born To Be My Baby and/or Bad Name properly anymore, but has changed the melody so much over the years that it sounds decent to us because we got used to it, but when comparing the verses from 2006 recordings to the verses from recordings from 1993 the 2006 versions sound really shit. Yet, everybody will say Jon can still sing those songs.

Jon struggled with Have A Nice Day the first time he sung it live, which was 5 months or so after it was recorded, but he has never delivered a vocal for the song that sounds as powerful as the studio version, yet everybody will say Jon can sing the song live.

What I'm saying is that Jon can't sing the classics properly anymore, so a rare song would sound alright, but there's simply no song that has stunning vocals, or vocals that at least would be as good as the studio versions. Yes, they could do a song live, I could write out a list for you, but yet, nothing on that list would be sung and performed like it should be, unless they start tuning them down like they did with In These Arms (which still sounds shit though.)

Therefore, a rare gem like Homebound Train could be sung by Jon, but he'd skip the train sounds (which he did in 2001). Jon can do Dry County, but he sounds flat in the choruses. Jon can do Something To Believe In, but will butcher the choruses. We got used to it because we've heard so many live versions over the years, but in the end he's not really singing the same melody lines like he did 10 years ago. Simply because he can't, and anyone saying that "Jon sounds really good this tour" is just talking crap. Jon sounds better this tour than the Bounce Tour, but that tour was the first on which he started to lose his voice again, so that tour isn't that hard to beat anway. Jon sounds shit, and there's no way that his voice is coming back.

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basically Jon can't sing 90% of his own songs ! Is this normal to singers or he's "the" one ? I mean, wtf ? What happened ?
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They went downhill like no other band in business
I still have a blast at their shows, meh.
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basically Jon can't sing 90% of his own songs ! Is this normal to singers or he's "the" one ? I mean, wtf ? What happened ?
This is the question of all questions. I dont think any one can answer it, except maybe Jon himself. Its an absolute mistery.
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This is the question of all questions. I dont think any one can answer it, except maybe Jon himself. Its an absolute mistery.
Its a tough one. Led Zeppelin recently did that one off show and Robert Plant sounded amazing. Plant has got to have the highest voice in rock. And at 60 he still does it well. Anyone know what David Lee Roth sounds like these days? Bret Michaels, Vince Neil, Sebastian Bach all still good. Axl Rose was unbelievable when I saw GNR this year.

Jon always said that the SWW and NJ tours burned out his voice. I dont know how it could have burnt it that much.

He really hasnt belted out a song for a long time. Satellite was written for Crush I think and it wasnt included because it was one of those songs that would have been too hard to reproduced live. Recently they have written alot of songs in D as opposed to alot they used to write in E. And its the drone D too....not the blood on blood D(all the muso's will understand that one)

I think they began tuning down half a step on the KTF tour but Jon's voice still sounded awesome up until when I saw him in '97 solo. Then 4 years later I saw BJ in Melbourne and something had changed there for sure. Can't explain it

Anyways, looking forward to the Aussie shows! Bring it on...
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Yes, that's why I said nothing about those. Dry County is one of the songs Jon struggles a lot with live though, but the general feel of the song and the build up make up for Jon not nailing it live.



1.Lost Highway
2.Bad Medicine / Gloria
3.Born To Be My Baby
4.Just Older
5.It's My Life
6.You Give Love A Bad Name
7.Runaway
8.Novocaine
9.One Wild Night
10.Hey God
11.Diamond Ring (a capella)
12.Damned
= Acoustic set =
13.Love For Sale
14.Never Say Goodbye
15.In These Arms
= Back to main set =
16.Lay Your Hands On Me
17.I'll Sleep When I'm Dead / Jumpin' Jack Flash
18.I'll Be There For You (Richie Sambora on lead vocals)
19.Any Other Day

= Encore =
20. Have A Nice Day
21. Dry County
22. Blood On Blood
23. Keep The Faith / Sympathy For The Devil

= Encore II =
24. Midnight Rider
25. Wanted Dead Or Alive

14 hitsingles, a few covers, a few album tracks from the past, 2 new songs, 4 gems for the fans and an acoustic set to give Jon's voice a bit of a rest. This is not the setlist of my dreams, but has everything that could make a show great. And the odd thing is, they could do such a show right now, because none of these songs minus maybe Damned and Hey God need to be rehearsed. Yet, Jon goes for the thing they're doing now. Oh well.

Salaam Aleikum,
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They have already sung 18 of those songs anyway. As they are promoting LH they will sing more from that album for sure. I would love to hear 'Lie To Me' or 'Hey God' again. There is more chance of this in Europe where 'These Days' was more successful.
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Its a tough one. Led Zeppelin recently did that one off show and Robert Plant sounded amazing. Plant has got to have the highest voice in rock. And at 60 he still does it well. Anyone know what David Lee Roth sounds like these days? Bret Michaels, Vince Neil, Sebastian Bach all still good. Axl Rose was unbelievable when I saw GNR this year.

Jon always said that the SWW and NJ tours burned out his voice. I dont know how it could have burnt it that much.

He really hasnt belted out a song for a long time. Satellite was written for Crush I think and it wasnt included because it was one of those songs that would have been too hard to reproduced live. Recently they have written alot of songs in D as opposed to alot they used to write in E. And its the drone D too....not the blood on blood D(all the muso's will understand that one)

I think they began tuning down half a step on the KTF tour but Jon's voice still sounded awesome up until when I saw him in '97 solo. Then 4 years later I saw BJ in Melbourne and something had changed there for sure. Can't explain it

Anyways, looking forward to the Aussie shows! Bring it on...
Vince Neil sounds bad live IMO. I think there is an element of lazyness with Jon's voice. I mean surley with a vocal coach he could do better. They don't reherse too much either, only if bringing in a different song etc.
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