[angelsambo]

Bon Jovi - "This House is Not For Sale"...

[jovifan93]

Originally Posted by Walleris

I see your point, but I have two issues with it:
1) Your first sentence - you don't tell people why they go to concerts. Someone with a musical background or a more trained ear may go to see a high quality musical performance (something Jon was much more capable just a few years ago) and thus have much lower tolerance levels for his (very obvious) shortcomings than you or 'the rest of the audience' and there's nothing wrong with expressing it;
2) Again, you only explained their (our) behavior, but not how it ruins the show for the rest of the audience. If someone critiques the show on a forum or even website review it has no influence on whether I like it or not. Any possible feedback happens after the fact.

I believe she meant that people like "you" (whoever she meant) would also actually go to the shows and criticize there all the time, thereby ruining it for the other people around them in the arena who just wanna have fun...

[Walleris]

Originally Posted by jovifan93

I believe she meant that people like "you" (whoever she meant) would also actually go to the shows and criticize there all the time, thereby ruining it for the other people around them in the arena who just wanna have fun...

Yes, and I still don't get how that "ruins it" for others, unless I'm with there with a megaphone criticizing Jon's missed notes for 20 thousand people to hear at that moment.

[symbeline]

Originally Posted by Walleris

Yes, and I still don't get how that "ruins it" for others, unless I'm with there with a megaphone criticizing Jon's missed notes for 20 thousand people to hear at that moment.

That I'll pay to see. The music stops and a panel of judges appear out of nowhere and start bitching about the performance

"Stop Jon, no no no, that was atrocious. This is the worst singing I've ever heard"

(It's a joke folks, I'd rather listen to current Jon than Adele)

[Bounce7800]

Originally Posted by rosa3

Very simple, you don't go to concerts to analyze how the sound iworking or worry about if the lead singer is singing totally off key or wonder if he would sing the songs that are up to your "standards" you know who does this? music critics that go to the show to write the reviews, fans go to have a good time with their friends and family and to forget their troubles. And that is how many of you are sounding like, music critics, and you know what they say about critics and people who give opinions, opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one.

Once again, if you don't like people discussing Bon Jovi on a Bon Jovi discussion board then I suggest this is not the right place for you. You constantly are coming across as very childish. This board has been discussing Bon Jovi tours and play by play setlists for many, many years. If you can't get your head around any criticism or constructive input on Bon Jovi I suggest you give the threads a swerve.

People are perfectly within their rights to call out things that are good and bad. I can easily sit here in London and give my opinions on a setlist in Dallas. I can also quite happily see when Jon is singing like a donkey as well. This doesn't take anything away from people being there and enjoying it - they can all love it, and no matter how bad the voice is or the setlist is, I still enjoy seeing my favourite band playing their songs live and my opinions on a show I'm at will be vastly different from one I wasn't - that doesn't make either opinion less valid.

[Panda]

This came up on my feed after watching a few Dallas videos. It is unbelievable how different of a band they were from just 5 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=SmQiqXyjJ20

[Rdkopper]

Originally Posted by Panda

This came up on my feed after watching a few Dallas videos. It is unbelievable how different of a band they were from just 5 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=SmQiqXyjJ20

Really? They only lost a key band member there big guy!!!

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[Rdkopper]

I love how people with zero common sense make comments on 'how different they are'

So let's break it down...

1.Different doesn't mean bad

2. They lost Richie Sambora a monster guitarist...

3. Add three new members including 2 guitarists and a percussionist...

4. Jon's older... 5 years in your 20s doesn't mean shit... 5 years from your late 40s to 50s does...

5. So factor in all the above and news flash... Yes, they are going to be ****ing different from 5 years ago!!!


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[jovifan93]

Originally Posted by Rdkopper

Really? They only lost a key band member there big guy!!!

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Well, actually it's been 7 years, but nitpicking aside - yes, the difference in Jon from 2010/11 and 2016/17 is huge. He looks much older (most of that due to the hair of course) and more mature/not so much like a rock star as he used to, moves less, and can't sing nearly half as good as he used to. I didn't see this coming to be honest. Did you?

So that actually is a huge decline in just about 5 years IMO. I know Richie factors into that on a psychological level, and that does affect Jon, but to that degree? I don't know...

Doesn't mean I don't still like 'em though. Always will!

[Eveline]

^

Maybe because BJ vocals were actually always delivered by two people? ;] Once one is gone, the magic is lost and it doesn't necessarily means the other one has completely lost it. It's just a lot weaker and exposed.