I love this quote!!!!

Originally Posted by danfan

How did I post the exact same thing in 3 threads?

Originally Posted by danfan

Please. You didn't believe that, did you? They say something to that affect on every tour. Alot of bands play the same setlist every night - I concede that. I don't follow those bands like I do Bon Jovi. I reckon, if they lied the way Jon does and claims they will be "spontaneous" on tour, their fans would be just as disgusted as some of us are.

Originally Posted by danfan

""We probably have 100 songs to choose from that the band has learned and rehearsed and ready to go," Bryan said. "We're not a scripted act, if you will. You know, it's not a dance act where everything is coordinated.

"Jon will be up on stage and he'll turn around say, 'OK. I want 'Joey.' And we'll turn around and play that. And that's an album cut and so we have a lot of that going on. It's very spontaneous when we get up on stage."



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!

Yeah - OK, Dave.

Originally Posted by The Walrus

I somewhat agree with TheseDays2005, it makes you seem like a person who talks just to hear their own voice ... somewhat like a born_to_run, to coin a phrase

Originally Posted by danfan

Interesting point of view, considering we both joined here pretty much the same time, yet you have almost 6,000 more posts than I do.

I only started 1 of these threads. If you have a problem with the amount of similiar threads, take it up with the other starting the threads, complain to a mod, or deal with it.

Originally Posted by danfan

Bullshit.

I defended HAND because

A.It was a good album.
B.They occassionally mixed the sets up a bit. The setlists were not as bad as this tour. The shows I saw, there was at least a bit of mixing things up. And a "surprise" was Wild Is The Wind or Dry County, not friggijn' Joey.

I like Lost Highway. It's not their best album, but I think it holds it's own.

Exactly my point - They clearly, don't give a shit as to what the hardcore fans want. You'd tihnk after 25 years of us buying their records and seeing their shows, that maybe they'd be a bit more creative in trying to give us a different show. Not only do they not do that, but then they make some bullshit comment about all these "surprises". As I said - THAT'S what pisses me off. Why do you think they make comments like that? They know full well their sets have been boring and uncreative. Clearly, Jon doesn't tihnk he has it in him anymore to sing Always, I Believe or anything else pre-2000. If that's the case - fine. But don't go bullshitting everybody in to buying a ticket when you clearly have no intention of doing anything different at all.

Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !



No you haven't. Please enlighten me why what I am saying on this board is pathetic. Please enlighten me with at least 5 examples, and give reasons why a certain post is pathetic.



That wouldn't be possible, I've only started posting since October last year, so I would like to see those dozen arguments of you. I can only remember one argument which was about the guitar solo of Any Other Day and all that, so if there are more in which you backed up your arguments of me being pathetic, please show me. I also wasn't posting on this board during the HAND tour, so it's pretty much impossible to read any reviews or opinions from me from the HAND tour. Now it certainly doesn't look like I'm the one with short term memories, am I?



Exactly. You love the fact that they play one of their biggest hits constantly, and am excited about getting In These Arms. If you think this setlist is very good, considering what they could be playing, is it that hard to figure out that a large amount of people think this setlist is crap, exactly for the same reason? And that playing even a worse setlist would be a disgrace? Is it that hard to understand?



And fail to back it up. You tell me I'd bash a Bon Jovi show in which they'd play Dry County, yet in one review of the 2 shows I visited during the HAND tour, I went on and on of how amazing that show was. So you're obviously wrong about that.



Which pretty much means that you think you've got me figured me out. Yet in the first example you bring up in which you think what I should do when a certain situation is happening, i.e. Dry County in a show and me bashing the show, you go wrong, because obviously it didn't happen.



Something that obviously you would spend a large amount of time on, and something of which you obviously missed the sarcasm and prank part of. Also, saying that I need mental help makes you the one who starts one of those flamebait wars, not me. So far you've accused me of being pathetic and in need of mental help, yet I've said nothing like that to you. Which again, merely shows what sort of person you are, instead of what person you try to make me look like.

So, your Dry County example failed. Show me an example of why I am pathetic. I'm still here, still a fan, still follow the band after all this complaining. Would you do the same?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Originally Posted by pwnedshot117

The sets are already more varied than they were on the HAND tour, save the Europe shows because for some lucky reason they get a lot of rarities. And you must conveniently forget that the stuff they've brought back this tour as rarities includes the original I'll Be There For You, Richie on These Days, Lay Your Hands on Me, Richie on Stranger, not to mention they are playing Keep the Faith, Blood on Blood, and In These Arms almost all the time which didn't happen until the end of the HAND tour. And now there is talk of Letting You Go coming back. What was your point again?

Originally Posted by danfan

You do a lot of talking out of your ass. Does it hurt?

Wild Is The Wind,, Living In Sin, I'd Die For You, Wild In The Streets, I Believe, Dry County, These Days just off the top of my head were all played on the HAND tour. Read my posts - It's not the song selection so much as the fact that it's the same damn set night after night. I don't give a crap if they play all b-sides, mix it up a bit. Don't make it feel like it's being acted off of a script.

Originally Posted by pwnedshot117

You posted around the HAND tour as well, and then made a crappy comeback sometime in between HAND and LH. So yes, I have argued with you on several occasions. I'm not going to bother looking it up. If you don't believe me, do it yourself.

Originally Posted by pwnedshot117

And no, I think the setlists are really really good. Taste in music is completely opinion based. I don't want to go to a show and hear a bunch of stuff from the 80s and 90s, and none of the new stuff. Maybe you do, and that's fine. I think it's great they play a lot of new stuff, a good amount of 80s stuff, and some 90s to mix it up.

Originally Posted by pwnedshot117

And where did this Dry County thing come up? You've lost me.

Originally Posted by pwnedshot117

Heck, if they were playing the songs you want them to (Dry County, Hey God, etc) you'd be complaining they weren't playing the songs they presently play consistantly. It's hardwired into that personality of yours to never be happy or satisfied. I have no intention of denying you that dissatisfaction.

Originally Posted by pwnedshot117

If you really want an example of you being pathetic, just look at what you wrote about the people on Backstage. I specifically remember a very long post, and even a webpage, all for bashing them. Too much time on your hands?

Originally Posted by pwnedshot117

I wouldn't know actually, but I'm sure you know how it feels.

Yes, all of those were played on the HAND tour, except I Believe. Livin' in Sin, Die For You, WITS, and These Days have all been played on this tour. In addition, the songs I mentioned have also been played, and they were NOT played on the HAND tour. This tour already has more rarities than the last one. And no, the sets change more night to night than they did on the HAND tour. And on top of that, they are eons better if you look back at the first US leg of the HAND tour. So please do yourself a favor and quit spouting off your opinion as a fact when it's clear you don't even have your facts straight to being with. It only makes you look like you're talking out of your ass.

Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !



No I didn't. I posted reviews of the 2 shows from the Have A Nice Day Tour that I went to, maybe a few other posts, but that was it. I never really discussed any setlist from the Have A Nice Day Tour here, or went into debate with many people. So again, if you can't back up your argument, don't start one in the first place. Otherwise I can just as well start one and say that you once said on this board that you have Jon's face tattooed on your arse.



If it's opinion based, why is it so hard to understand that a lot of people don't feel the same way and want it to be different? Also, how exactly is putting In These Arms in the first night, out the second night, in the third night, out the fourth night mixing it up? If you can predict what song from the nineties will be played during the show, that's not mixing it up.



I figured that out yeah, because it seems to be hard for you to remember your posts?



That's your first example of me never being satisfied and all that, yet if you read my review of the show I went to that had Dry County in it, exactly the opposite is true.



No. It's called a hoax and making fun of some people, and it included irony and sarcasm, something you obviously overlooked.

So far you still haven't backed up anything and all you do is starting a flamebait war with all your false assumptions and efforts in trying to put other users down by saying they're pathetic and all that. It's easy to throw around all these false assumptions, but it really says more about you then it says about me.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan