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Read the article! They made 14000 the full capacatiy instead of about 180000. SO its about 138000/180000. Gettin worse huh?
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Based on all articles I read, the planned capacity for these shows was 16,000 (they could not utilize the 19,000 seat capacity because of their stage set up). Why they only chose to report 140,000 is beyond me. This is nothing new in the concert industry as they often disguise poor selling shows with lowering the capacity. My all time favorite was in 2003 when Springsteen put a stadium show on sale in March for Denver. He was playing the football stadium with a capacity well over 50,000 seats. He only sold 26,000 and they reported it in Billboard with a capacity of 30,000. It was laughable when it was reported, but still, it's a common practice in the industry to disguise shows that did not sell up to expectations.
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Dunno how low yours is I'm afraid mate!
Obviously because yours is incapable of calibrating such a high number.

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And that's bull, IMO.
Because box's require either corporate sponsors, or like 30 people willing to shell out alot of money. They shouldn't be counted IMHO.
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And that's bull, IMO.
Because box's require either corporate sponsors, or like 30 people willing to shell out alot of money. They shouldn't be counted IMHO.
But how much of a difference could it make?
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But how much of a difference could it make?
Each suite has an allocated amount of seats in front of it, therefore if a box isn't sold, it's seats count as unsold.
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No matter how you spin it, like Javier said, selling 138K tickets is still a lot of tickets for any band. Plus, the shows by extension were about generating interest and revenue for the city of Newark and they definitely did that. I highly doubt the mayor of Newark is calling the shows a PR disaster. Sure, they would have sold more tickets at less than $100 bucks a ticket but then you'd have another smart ass critic or writer claiming, "gimmick".

I don't think these shows were ever intended to be a barometer for what the band could charge for the tour.

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Also posted on billboard.com (full article called On The Road: Rock Of Ages, November 10, 2007 by Ray Waddell):

ROCKING THE ROCK: At this writing, Bon Jovi is midway through a 10-night stand at the new Prudential Center in Newark, N.J., dubbed the Rock. Local press seemed unduly focused on the fact that the shows weren't sold out in advance, but promoter AEG Live says they miss the point.

"There were more than 140,000 tickets sold going into the 10-show run based on a 240-degree production that was first set up in the Rock on the Tuesday before the first show on [Oct. 25]," says Randy Phillips, CEO of AEG Live, promoter for the shows and Bon Jovi's world tour in 2008.

"Since there was not enough time for full-scale production rehearsals, we needed to be very conservative when we first built the available ticket profile for the new arena in terms of production kills, sightline obstructions and the facility holds for their club level," Phillips says. "We knew we were going to be releasing [seats] very late in the run. However, the results of Bon Jovi's 10-show grand opening were beyond expectations."

Phillips says the "real story" of the band's run in Newark is much more important. "Jon and the band had 10 nights on hold at Madison Square Garden [in New York] and chose to open the Prudential Center in Newark instead," he says. "He did it out of a sense of civic pride for his state and because of the economic impact the arena will have on downtown Newark, both in terms of jobs and attracting other investment. He is a social activist who puts his money where his mouth is. Incidentally, he would have made more money at the Garden and probably not had any reporters sniping at him."
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Phillips says the "real story" of the band's run in Newark is much more important. "Jon and the band had 10 nights on hold at Madison Square Garden [in New York] and chose to open the Prudential Center in Newark instead," he says. "He did it out of a sense of civic pride for his state and because of the economic impact the arena will have on downtown Newark, both in terms of jobs and attracting other investment. He is a social activist who puts his money where his mouth is. Incidentally, he would have made more money at the Garden and probably not had any reporters sniping at him."
As far as I'm concerned this paragraph tells it all. Jon has been bashed here for being a money hungry bastard but he still turned down more money (and more prestige) at Madison Square Garden.
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I had heard that about Bruce but I didn't know if it was gossip or fact. Well - I guess everybody has to try to put a good spin on things. I guess I wanted to think they were helping out Newark rather than just "testing the waters".

It's a shame that it turned out his way because I know a lot of longtime fans who have more or less quit being fans - especially after this album and the beginning of the tour.
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OK, to add confusion to the matter, Billboard has a 2 page ad congratulating Bon Jovi on "10 SOLD OUT NIGHTS-150,000 PEOPLE!"...yet in the same issue the Billboard Boxscore shows none of the ten nights sold out and a max capacity of 140,000...

So what is it?

Ridiculous and embarrassing. A band going downhill!
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