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Old 06-30-2011, 06:07 PM
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Probably partly for show to pretend there's something that wrong with it and partly to keep his knee as stable as possible for the actual injury that did happen. I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with it, but everyone who ever had the injury Jon claims he has or who knows about these sort of things says it can't be what Jon claims it is.

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Oh yeah, he was certainly playing up the injury that's for sure. There were a couple of moments early on where it was if he was saying to the audience, "Hey everyone, notice my knee and my limp. Aren't I awesome for battling through the pain. Seriously, have you seen my knee brace!?" and then he basically did just that during BM. I don't care, he's a showman, and he uses it to good effect.
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I admire your tendency to see negative things about everything involving Jon, but come on...

From 3:25
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You can see that it takes more effort for him to move. Off course you can say that he's faking, but he's in a middle of a song and I see no reason for him to do that. And that interview is probably a week old or even older and if it is, then at that time he was probably in a worse shape than he's now.
The point is, if he had the injury he claims he has he'd not be able to move it at all for at least a good week. Jon did one show where he was in a bit more pain, but the last thing you'd be able to do is a 3 hour show a week after it has happened. Like I said, I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with him, it just can't be what he claims it is. Anyone who knows about these sort of things says it, and you clearly don't so it'd be better not to say anything rather than attacking me for "being negative" again. Even an athlete with a grade I tear can't perform for at least 1 week. Further on, if you continue performing with a torn MCL your problems will most likely become chronic.

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The point is, if he had the injury he claims he has he'd not be able to move it at all for at least a good week. Jon did one show where he was in a bit more pain, but the last thing you'd be able to do is a 3 hour show a week after it has happened. Like I said, I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with him, it just can't be what he claims it is. Anyone who knows about these sort of things says it, and you clearly don't so it'd be better not to say anything rather than attacking me for "being negative" again. Even an athlete with a grade I tear can't perform for at least 1 week. Further on, if you continue performing with a torn MCL your problems will most likely become chronic.

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Calm down, I wasn't attacking you at all, don't be so paranoid. I obviously don't know about things like this, but I always thought that Jon sprained his MCL and didn't tear it. The only 3 hour show they've done after Jon's injury was Hyde Park and it was obviously because they were paid big money to play three hours and make up for the crappy lineup. Other shows have been about 140-150 min long. And about what Jon's been saying about his leg, as I said, these interviews might be 1-2 weeks old. The only really recent word Jon's gave us was at Dublin 2 days ago when he met a member from this board and according to him Jon said his knee was "holding up very well".
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Calm down, I wasn't attacking you at all, don't be so paranoid. I obviously don't know about things like this, but I always thought that Jon sprained his MCL and didn't tear it. The only 3 hour show they've done after Jon's injury was Hyde Park and it was obviously because they were paid big money to play three hours and make up for the crappy lineup. Other shows have been about 140-150 min long. And about what Jon's been saying about his leg, as I said, these interviews might be 1-2 weeks old. The only really recent word Jon's gave us was at Dublin 2 days ago when he met a member from this board and according to him Jon said his knee was "holding up very well".
They played for 2hrs and 50mins last night in Dublin. That two 3 hour shows within a week.
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They played for 2hrs and 50mins last night in Dublin. That two 3 hour shows within a week.
Really? That's only 24 songs, usually that equals to ~2:30 h set. Weird. And they didn't do any really long songs except DC.
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Calm down, I wasn't attacking you at all, don't be so paranoid. I obviously don't know about things like this, but I always thought that Jon sprained his MCL and didn't tear it. The only 3 hour show they've done after Jon's injury was Hyde Park and it was obviously because they were paid big money to play three hours and make up for the crappy lineup. Other shows have been about 140-150 min long. And about what Jon's been saying about his leg, as I said, these interviews might be 1-2 weeks old. The only really recent word Jon's gave us was at Dublin 2 days ago when he met a member from this board and according to him Jon said his knee was "holding up very well".
If you start your post with a personal comment aimed at me and then disregard anything I say simply because "I'm being negative" that's an attack at me rather than at what I'm saying.

You still don't seem to get it though.

Would Jon have the injury he claims he have he wouldn't be able to perform at all. Not 3 hours, not 2, not 1, not half an hour, he just wouldn't be able to stand up straight, bend his knee as effortless as he does, even if the interview is a week or 2 old. You need 2 weeks of rest, and the excuse that "he got paid a shitload of money and therefore is able to perform for 3 hours" doesn't hold up. An athlete can't go to the Olympics either with this injury when he sponsors telling him they'll pay him a fortune if he gets the gold medal.

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Probably partly for show to pretend there's something that wrong with it and partly to keep his knee as stable as possible for the actual injury that did happen. I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with it, but everyone who ever had the injury Jon claims he has or who knows about these sort of things says it can't be what Jon claims it is.

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I get your point. But then why on earth would he claim that he has this type of injury? I mean - wouldnt it be pointless?
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I get your point. But then why on earth would he claim that he has this type of injury? I mean - wouldnt it be pointless?
I'm not sure. It's either to cover up a more serious injury, a less serious injury, who knows? Maybe insurance companies and promoters wouldn't be happy with it considering this is obstacle number whatever this tour? He tore his calf muscle, problems getting the stage to South America, Richie goes to rehab, now this. It might mean he feels like they're becoming a risk to book, which is why he insists on going on with the tour no matter what.

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Yeah, I think the injury has been played up like a typical Bon Jovi exaggeration. They exaggerate audience figures, concert lengths (didn't Matt claim on the night that Jon was injured that he went on to play 3 hours when it was really only 2hrs, 20min?), etc. The brace started out being a necessity and now it is either just a safety measure or for showmanship. Having said that, I am sure that we all wish him well with his surgical procedure and that he goes on to finish the tour in grand style. I am always glad to hear reports of his being in good spirits and on fire rather than pissy and on autopilot.
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I get your point. But then why on earth would he claim that he has this type of injury? I mean - wouldnt it be pointless?
He could be misdiagnosed. Happened to me (but not with knee).
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