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Old 02-14-2010, 03:19 AM
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Maybe it's just me but I tihnk it sounds much better (and comes off better) with Jon on rhythm guitar for Bad Name.
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The same was done for Bounce and Undivided early on but was dropped once the Bounce tour started.
I forgot to comment on this....I much perferred Bounce and enjoyed it more when Jon played guitar on it, particularly at Shepherds Bush. I didn't care for it as the tour opener without him playing guitar. I also liked his picking up a guitar for the intro, putting it away for the main body of the song and then picking it back up for the end of Undivided.
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:50 AM
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If the lead singer playing guitar is killing the show then the show is wrong to begin with. Jon played guitar on I Believe for every show on the Keep The Faith Tour and it opened probably 98% of every show as well. That certainly didn't kill the show either.

Bobby played guitar on Bad Name on the HAND and LH tour yet could never be heard. With Jon doing the riff as well in the song on the verses it gives the song a much better sound.

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You are right but compare I Believe to Lost Highway And look at any of the bootlegs from KTF tour - Jon is going crazy behind the mic, he is dancing, moving.. and what song comes next? Wild In The Streets. And what came next in Hawaii? WWBTF... - that is the way to kill the show. And when Bad Name with him playing guitar comes next, I think the demage is done I mean - three songs in a row, the very first three songs, with a singer just standing at the mic...

I have nothing against his playing guitar in Bad Name but the song should be played later in the set. It is funny that both Richie and Jon played the solo - we can hear Richie playing but we can see Jon doing something like playing solo

I agree with you about Bobby - he is there just useless. It is not only Bad Name but every other songs. I noticed him only when he butchered solos for HaND (HaND tour) and ITA and when he did Start Me Up in the Sleep medley.
When he joined Bon Jovi on the stage, I thought he will bring something. I mean - I love the agrgessive rhythm guitar riff during IML solo on the record, so I thought Bobby is here to do things like this. I was wrong.

As I wrote in my earlier post - he is here only to play some unhearable sounds, which David had to play from keyboards...
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I don't see the point of this since it restricts his movement on stage.
What's that gotta do with anything? When I go to a show I'm not going to see Jon do a few star jumps and back flips on stage, I'm going to see a good musical performance from the band. The fact that he plays guitar is a good thing. The less session musicians the better in my opinion. They started off that way. Why change it when you become a success and can afford to employ session musicians?
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What's that gotta do with anything? When I go to a show I'm not going to see Jon do a few star jumps and back flips on stage, I'm going to see a good musical performance from the band. The fact that he plays guitar is a good thing. The less session musicians the better in my opinion. They started off that way. Why change it when you become a success and can afford to employ session musicians?
Oh but when Jon does a star jump the girls go crazy and it then become the best concert ever!!!
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What's that gotta do with anything? When I go to a show I'm not going to see Jon do a few star jumps and back flips on stage, I'm going to see a good musical performance from the band. The fact that he plays guitar is a good thing. The less session musicians the better in my opinion. They started off that way. Why change it when you become a success and can afford to employ session musicians?
Indeed!!!
And I believe that if he does not run or jump it allows him for better vocal. Just imagine yourself singing and nailing high notes just after having climbed a mountain or a staircase or having had a sprint? Jon could sing and jump back i nthe 90s when his vocal cords were not too much used up. Now, after years of wear and tear let him save all his energy for the vocal performance!

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And I believe that if he does not run or jump it allows him for better vocal. Just imagine yourself singing and nailing high notes just after having climbed a mountain or a staircase or having had a sprint? Jon could sing and jump back i nthe 90s when his vocal cords were not too much used up. Now, after years of wear and tear let him save all his energy for the vocal performance!
Which is what he is doing, I agree.
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You are right but compare I Believe to Lost Highway And look at any of the bootlegs from KTF tour - Jon is going crazy behind the mic, he is dancing, moving.. and what song comes next? Wild In The Streets. And what came next in Hawaii? WWBTF... - that is the way to kill the show. And when Bad Name with him playing guitar comes next, I think the demage is done I mean - three songs in a row, the very first three songs, with a singer just standing at the mic...

I have nothing against his playing guitar in Bad Name but the song should be played later in the set. It is funny that both Richie and Jon played the solo - we can hear Richie playing but we can see Jon doing something like playing solo

I agree with you about Bobby - he is there just useless. It is not only Bad Name but every other songs. I noticed him only when he butchered solos for HaND (HaND tour) and ITA and when he did Start Me Up in the Sleep medley.
When he joined Bon Jovi on the stage, I thought he will bring something. I mean - I love the agrgessive rhythm guitar riff during IML solo on the record, so I thought Bobby is here to do things like this. I was wrong.

As I wrote in my earlier post - he is here only to play some unhearable sounds, which David had to play from keyboards...
Dude, you are becoming the second most annoying person on this board as far as it concernes your comments on everything being shit. You are always refering to periodes of Bon Jovi in which you almost weren't born.

Bobby has a different style of playing but he really can play
Lost Highway is a very cool song ... I agree it's not the best choice to open the shows but that's another discussion
WWBTF is a very logical choice to be in the set, live with it.

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Dude, you are becoming the second most annoying person on this board as far as it concernes your comments on everything being shit. You are always refering to periodes of Bon Jovi in which you almost weren't born.

Bobby has a different style of playing but he really can play
Lost Highway is a very cool song ... I agree it's not the best choice to open the shows but that's another discussion
WWBTF is a very logical choice to be in the set, live with it.

There's something you really need to learn, ... everything isn't black or white. There's grey also.
Dude you suck, and there's nothing wrong with being passionate about Bon Jovi, weather it's being negative or positive. I'm fed up with wankers like you needing to bring other people down for them having an opinion that doesn't float your boat.

Bobby can play, but he can't play Bon Jovi songs, the shitload of video's on youTube of his murdering the guitar solo's to In These Arms and Have A Nice Day show this very well. He has never done a proper riff of any Bon Jovi song and just strums barre chords with a sound that's not good for a Bon Jovi song.

Johny's just passionate in what he believes, and you're completely missing his point. Yes, I do think he's going a little far with his points ideas on Huey but I'm not bringing him down either like you do. It'd be nice if dickheads like you would actually think before you post instead of just being all about the "oooh you're so negative and I don't like it!" Do some proper research on the band before you judge an opinion of which you don't know the reason behind it.

For ****s sake.

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Im gonna chime in with my two cents here, as I've been reading and lurking for awhile and am gonna jump into the deep end here.

1. Elvis, while I agree with your sentiments in general, it's not alright to attack Jonny personally. I could comment on YouTube vids made from 86, just because I was a year and a half old at the time they were physically shot doesn't give my argument any less credence if I happen to know what I'm talking about. I disagree with him about Lost Highway as an opener (we must remember we don't have violins and pedal steel to dilute the sound this time, whatever version we hear is all JBJ, Richie, T and David and Hugh. (And Bobby, no disrespect meant) and the "detraction" of having JBJ play guitar for the first three songs, but I've read enough from him to know he's quite a passionate fan who at least attempts to know what he's talking about.

2. It'll be interesting to see JBJ bust out some Rhythm guitar if he chooses to at the Denver show (which I'll be attending) . Really enjoyed the fullness his playing gave to the versions of "Bounce" I have seen. (No opinion on Undivided). Also, could his presence on guitar be owed to the fact that Richie seems to have gone wireless with his Sambora model? It seems to me that the power is considerably weaker when he's not tethered.

3. IMO, I'll take Richie's HAND solo over Bobby's any day, but when I watched the vids, they were simply a different, welcome take while Richie played a single rather than doubleneck.

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