Lazy and greedy touring

Actually, there are 14 cities on BJ's European schedule which by the way is the same number of cities that U2 is playing on their European leg. U2 is as of now playing seven more shows than BJ as they have multiple nights in a few cities, but it's probable that BJ will add some shows between now and then.

I really don't believe after selling 100,000,000 albums Bon Jovi are that desperate for a few quid so I doubt they are just playing the countries where they can make the most money. Metallica's latest tour in the UK consisted of 2 shows in London, that was it. Now that's lazy greedy touring, they could easily have filled Arena's in other parts of the country. Bon Jovi could have just done 3 nights at Wembley and left if it was purely about greed. After all the years of touring they've given us who can blame them for slowing down a bit in their old age! As for the countries they're not going to maybe the promoters just don't feel they'd sell enough tickets to make it worthwhile. While I don't think it's as calculated as some of you, I don't expect anyone to go out and deliberately lose money on a tour. At the end of the day if you really want to see them then you'll find a way. Jon's got his acting and family to think about, I doubt he's got two years spare for a tour. If they did that long a tour then we'd all be moaning how long they take between albums. I'm still hoping Sambora can squeeze another solo album and tour in somewhere as well. I know we're lucky in the UK and US that they tour extensively but unfortunately the rest of you will just have to travel to see them or actually start buying the newer albums.

The band members seem more rounded as people now. With family and other outlets, they're priorities change. Kids are only young once. Plus, Jon seems to get a lot of enjoyment out of the Philly Soul and wants to be hands on so I think that takes up a lot of time. Plus, he's said that he wanted the tour scheduled around games. The American part of the tour might be the same length with fewer concerts to be able to work around the AFL season.

06/06/03 Nurnberg, Germany Rock Im Park
07/06/03 Berlin, Germany Wuhlheide
08/06/03 Nurburgring, Germany Rock Am Ring
11/06/03 Paris, France La Boule Noire
11/06/03 Paris, France Le Bataclan
11/06/03 Paris, France Le Trabendo
13/06/03 Imola, Italy Heineken Jammin' Festival
15/06/03 Nijmegen, Netherlands Goffertpark Fields
21/06/03 Barcelona, Spain Doctor Music Festival
22/06/03 Madrid, Spain La Peinata Stadium
26/06/03 Roskilde, Denmark Roskilde Festival
28/06/03 Werchter, Belgium Werchter Rock Festival
02/12/03 Oslo, Norway Spektrum
03/12/03 Oslo, Norway Spektrum
05/12/03 Hanover, Germany Preussag-Arena
06/12/03 Amhem, Holland Gelredome
08/12/03 Zurich, Switzerland Hallenstadion
09/12/03 Paris, France Palais Omnisports de Bercy
11/12/03 Bolgna, Italy Palamalaguti
13/12/03 Erfurt, Germany Messehalle
14/12/03 Mannheim, Germany Maimarkthalle
16/12/03 Cologne, Germany Cologne Arena
17/12/03 Antwerp, Belgium Sportpaleis
19/12/03 London, England Earls court Arena
20/12/03 London, England Earls Court Arena
26/05/04 Copenhagen, Denmark Parken
28/05/04 Helsinki, Finland Olympic Stadium
30/05/04 Gothenburg, Sweden Ullevi
31/05/04 Chorzow, Poland Slaski Stadium
02/06/04 Glasgow, Scotland Download Festival
04/06/04 Lisbon, Portugal Parque Bella Vista
06/06/04 Donington Park, UK Download Festival
08/06/04 Ludwigshafen, Germany Sudweststadion
10/06/04 Gelsenkirchen, Germany Arena Auf Schalke
11/06/04 Wiener Neustadt, Austria Aerodrome 04 Festival
13/06/04 Munich, Germany Olympic Stadium
15/06/04 Belgrade, Serbia Partizan Stadion
16/06/04 Bremen, Germany Weserstadion
18/06/04 Zurich, Switzerland Letzegrund Stadium
19/06/04 Zaragoza, Spain La Romareda Stadium
21/06/04 Amsterdam, Netherlands Ajax Arena
23/06/04 Paris, France Parc des Princes
25/06/04 Dublin, Ireland RDS
29/06/04 Padova, Italy Stadio Euganeo
01/07/04 Prague, Czech Republic T-Mobile Park
02/07/04 Werchter, Belgium Werchter Festival
04/07/04 Reykjavik, Iceland Egilshollin

So here's some metallica st.anger european dates and there was 86 done in north america.

Bon jovi constatly complaining how boring it is to travel, and have done so for the recent tours. i think this effects the quality of the shows.
they don't like traveling, and that effects their setlist, vocalperformances and so on.

that's my conclusion.

"Touring" does not sepearte rock artists from other artists. Acts in other genres are among some of the biggest tours going.

A band does not have to tour either. It's something that obviously helps with album sales, but it's not necessary. I'm not thrilled with their tourdates either. They haven't played my area in 16 years. But they don't owe us a tour.

Becky

yes it does.

Of course other artist tour, but not in the same range as rockbands, and mostly their shows suck.

no they don't owe us anything, but they should keep in mind that if they don't tour, their records will sell shit!

Not that it's all about money, but do they make more money from touring or album sales?

Most acts make more money from touring. And, erik, explain what you mean that other artists don't tour in the same range as rock bands?

Becky

How many popbands has done 2500 shows?
How many popband or other artist keeps touring intensivly although the aren't in the spotlight?
Not that many!

rock is touring, its a institution. this is not an opinion, this is a fact.

Iron maiden, Metallica, Jovi, U2, Rolling stones are all top live acts, thats not a coinsident (of course there are other great live artists as well, but still not in the same leauge as rockbands).

(perhaps the phrase "in the same range" is wrong.., hopefully this is a better explanation )