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Old 07-13-2010, 04:25 PM
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no matter what, certain staples need to stay in the show in order to please the old as well as the new fans. The rarities are there for us to enjoy. We'd all love our dream setlist every night but it isn't really realistic. Can you imagine a casual fan going for the first time and not recognising many songs?
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Old 07-13-2010, 05:29 PM
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no matter what, certain staples need to stay in the show in order to please the old as well as the new fans. The rarities are there for us to enjoy. We'd all love our dream setlist every night but it isn't really realistic. Can you imagine a casual fan going for the first time and not recognising many songs?
Completely missing the point. Most here don't expect, or want them to drop the big ones like Prayer, Bad Name, Wanted, even IML gets a massive response from the crowd. However there are a pool of songs they could easily rotate alot more which would include, BTBMB, KTF, ITA, Sleep, Who says, Crash etc.

Casuals wouldnt miss any of these, in fact if they were replaced with songs like Always, Never say goodbye, This aint a love song, all about loving you, thank you for loving me, I believe - these would be alot more well known (in europe anyway). They are ignoring a huge part of their material.
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Completely missing the point. Most here don't expect, or want them to drop the big ones like Prayer, Bad Name, Wanted, even IML gets a massive response from the crowd. However there are a pool of songs they could easily rotate alot more which would include, BTBMB, KTF, ITA, Sleep, Who says, Crash etc.

Casuals wouldnt miss any of these, in fact if they were replaced with songs like Always, Never say goodbye, This aint a love song, all about loving you, thank you for loving me, I believe - these would be alot more well known (in europe anyway). They are ignoring a huge part of their material.
I think they would need to keep Who Says, because that is one of their recent songs that most casuals would recognize. But we don't need to hear Captain Crash, In These Arms, and Sleep When I'm Dead. I don' want them to drop Keep the Faith, though.

I think they REALLY need to play Blaze of Glory more on this tour. I think they've only played it once on this tour. That was a #1 single at one time.
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I think they would need to keep Who Says, because that is one of their recent songs that most casuals would recognize. But we don't need to hear Captain Crash, In These Arms, and Sleep When I'm Dead. I don' want them to drop Keep the Faith, though.

I think they REALLY need to play Blaze of Glory more on this tour. I think they've only played it once on this tour. That was a #1 single at one time.

They don't have to drop any of those songs altogether. KTF closes the main set, why not for example, rotate that with Blaze and TD. ITs not just about hearing the rare stuff, theres so many hits that are hardly getting touched.

I agree who says needs to stay for the US shows, but here in the UK no-one would think twice if they didnt hear that.
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After being bothered, ashamed and sometimes quite furious (all this after spending a great amount of money in 5 O2, Paris and Rock In Rio shows looking for rarites and different show everynight as they said) about the autopilot set list, I think this last performance in NML has to be the inflexion point for these set lists

I know thereīs not much on our hand. But we (die-hards, fans) have to move cards... and the only idea I have is using big banners and asking it to Obie in the official site http://es.bonjovi.com/qas/all/questions_for_bjm

Bon Jovi has a great deal of amazing songs (i believe, something to believe in, i am, living in sin, stick to your guns...) that must be played, and over all, a GREAT ALBUM called THE CIRCLE which is taken apart in its tour in a ridiculous way (being for many, the best album in 2000īs).

Why do we have to listen Capt Crash, Sleep, Who says and Going On day by day, night by night, play by play..??? and not Brokenpromiseland, Thorn In my side, Only Lonely, my guitar lies bleeding...??? WHY??? Are they masterpieces???... shame!!!

Sorry about my poor english, but Im going to write Obie everyday until they change the sets, playing more often rare songs and over all, asking for playing more of THE CIRCLE

I hope everybody who agree with me would do anything, because our dream started in honolulu with both incredible sets, and after it, always autopilot (if u are very lucky, 1 or 2 rarities a night)

After the dissapointment of O2 and last night at NMS... we have to move!
No matter what they sing: There will always be a bunch of people complaining...
And.. you can't forget: 95 % of people there aren't diehard fans. They want to hear Bon Jovis Hits, nothing more!! They don't give a shit on rarities and are bored when they hear too many songs the don't know!!
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They don't have to drop any of those songs altogether. KTF closes the main set, why not for example, rotate that with Blaze and TD. ITs not just about hearing the rare stuff, theres so many hits that are hardly getting touched.

I agree who says needs to stay for the US shows, but here in the UK no-one would think twice if they didnt hear that.
OK. I get what you're saying. Maybe just jumble up the order a little bit. I think they should open up with Prayer. It is a good opening song (it works pretty much anywhere). I think they should keep all those songs too, except for Crash. I like the song, but it's overdone. I think the perfect ending song is either Keep the Faith or Blood on Blood.

I personally would like to here more These Days stuff. I didn't really care for the album till a couple months ago, but then got it for my birthday and I love it now. They need to throw in Something to Believe In and These Days more. We know that Jon can sing them, so now he needs to sing them MORE. I also would like to here Something for the Pain in the electric version.
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No matter what they sing: There will always be a bunch of people complaining...
And.. you can't forget: 95 % of people there aren't diehard fans. They want to hear Bon Jovis Hits, nothing more!! They don't give a shit on rarities and are bored when they hear too many songs the don't know!!
And exactly how many songs do you think that 95% of the crowd know anyway? Just look at this setlist, it's the last one at Giants:

1. Raise Your Hands
2. We Weren't Born To Follow
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. Born To Be My Baby
5. Superman Tonight
6. In These Arms
7. When We Were Beautiful
8. Captain Crash And The Beauty Queen From Mars
9. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. We Got It Going On

11. Bad Medicine/Old Time Rock and Roll
12. Loves the Only Rule
13. Lay Your Hands On Me (Richie)
14. Open All Night (Bounce)
15. I'll Be There for You
16. Squeezebox
17. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night (acoustic)

18. Have A Nice Day
19. Work For The Working Man
20. It's My Life
21. Who Says
22. Keep The Faith

Encore
23. Wanted Dead or Alive
24. I Love This Town
25. Glad All Over

26. Livin' On A Prayer

The songs in red all have never been hits before. You seriously think they need to be in there in order to please the 95% of people who aren't die hards?

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If the casual fans only know a couple of songs, and get bored with the songs that WE know but they don't, it's their own fault. Educate yourselves, learn their songs instead of the crappy few you have on your iPods and then you won't be so bored.
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**** setlists I don't know why they bother. They should just play Prayer on constant repeat for two hours.
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95% people arenīt die hard ok, so they only know + or - 13 songs:

ALWAYS (which is a rarity hear it live)
ITīS MY LIVE
PRAYER
WANTED
BAD MEDICINE
KEEP THE FAITH
THESE DAYS (Which is a rarity as well)
HAVE A NICE DAY (Which is becoming a rarity in this tour)
BORN TO BE MY BABY
BED OF ROSES (Which is a rarity as well)
WHO SAYS (Only well known in the USA, because in europe...)
BAD NAME
BORN TO FOLLOW

These songs I understand to be played everynight


The rest
Nobody give a s*it with Capt Crash, Sleep, We Got it Goin On, Lost Highway and all those songs that are played night by night by any circunstance and arenīt highlights or gems anyway

These songs need to be changed with songs that offer the same or more spectacle, are musically amazing and keep both the die hards and current people happy and engaged with this band ( I believe, Undivided, Brokenpromiseland, I am, Just Older, Stick to your guns, etc..)

Finally, I have to say that Blood On Blood is getting overplayed. IMO Its the best song in NewJersey album, but the place and the current of appeareance in the set list is not adecuate
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