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Old 12-17-2013, 07:14 PM
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Tyler definitely is a more entertaining frontman these days but he doesn't sing those high notes! It's a backing track just like Jon uses for the line "livin on a prayer" before the guitar solo.
Dream on, if there were a backing track for that line in Prayer, it wouldn't sound as it does Can't say anything about Tyler though, but I'll be seeing them next year...
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Old 12-17-2013, 08:30 PM
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Dream on, if there were a backing track for that line in Prayer, it wouldn't sound as it does Can't say anything about Tyler though, but I'll be seeing them next year...
This concert was embarrassing. Jon sounds horrible. Keep the Faith was a disgrace. I'll be there for you was the worst I've seen. Jon needs to go see a vocal coach ASAP. For God's sake, even I can sing Because We Can when I'm showering and I don't sound as if I'm about to blow.

About Tyler: he still is capable of singing almost his entire catalogue. He pretty much nails Dream On nowadays. And he moves on stage. He runs on stage. He makes jokes with the crowd. In 2010, I went to an Aerosmith gig in Sao Paulo, he got a camera from someone in the crowd and sang two songs with the camera in his hands filming the audience, and then gave it back to his owner. People went nuts. On the other side, Jon on this tour was a statue on stage. He writes set lists with songs that no one wants to hear, because they are easy on his vocals. For the first time ever, they are giving more importance to production than for the music itself. I just loved the stage on the Circle Tour: one big screen showing the band. And that's it. I was completely blown away by the music in 2008, 2010 and 2011. And when I bought two tickets for the MetLife concerts, what do I get ? Two identical shows.

Unless something changes, this band is done for us die hards. And when people say that the casuals still enjoy seeing Jon shaking his ass and showing off his big white teeth on stage, think again: The crowd in Rock in Rio was put to sleep by the main set. I saw LOTS of people leaving, siting on the floor and texting. WIth a few exceptions, they don't sell out stadiums and arenas anymore. Even the casuals are starting to notice how this band has became a joke.
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Old 12-17-2013, 08:37 PM
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This concert was embarrassing. Jon sounds horrible. Keep the Faith was a disgrace. I'll be there for you was the worst I've seen. Jon needs to go see a vocal coach ASAP. For God's sake, even I can sing Because We Can when I'm showering and I don't sound as if I'm about to blow.

About Tyler: he still is capable of singing almost his entire catalogue. He pretty much nails Dream On nowadays. And he moves on stage. He runs on stage. He makes jokes with the crowd. In 2010, I went to an Aerosmith gig in Sao Paulo, he got a camera from someone in the crowd and sang two songs with the camera in his hands filming the audience, and then gave it back to his owner. People went nuts. On the other side, Jon on this tour was a statue on stage. He writes set lists with songs that no one wants to hear, because they are easy on his vocals. For the first time ever, they are giving more importance to production than for the music itself. I just loved the stage on the Circle Tour: one big screen showing the band. And that's it. I was completely blown away by the music in 2008, 2010 and 2011. And when I bought two tickets for the MetLife concerts, what do I get ? Two identical shows.

Unless something changes, this band is done for us die hards. And when people say that the casuals still enjoy seeing Jon shaking his ass and showing off his big white teeth on stage, think again: The crowd in Rock in Rio was put to sleep by the main set. I saw LOTS of people leaving, siting on the floor and texting. WIth a few exceptions, they don't sell out stadiums and arenas anymore. Even the casuals are starting to notice how this band has became a joke.

The highest grossing tour of 2013
. Jon only needs to smile. You do not paying attention, man.
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Old 12-17-2013, 08:43 PM
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Yeah sure. And 90 shows and all sold out rofl.
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Old 12-17-2013, 08:52 PM
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Regardless of the quality of the show, it was a brilliant way to spend my morning at work!

Phil did a great job on the tour. I stand by my original comments about the tone of his guitar playing not being quite right for the Bon Jovi sound but I think it got better as the tour rolled on. He adds a great rock voice and rock style that could actually contribute to a fresh approach to an album (not that i'm pushing for him to become a member over Sambo).

Jon's voice is shot which is a shame but he does give it a good go at times, he's just not got the pipes anymore. I think its a fact we're all going to have to come to terms with. Theres no going back from where he is.

To close - take a 3 year break. Write a more cohesive band album that focuses on a truer rock sound not mediocre pop rock. Come back in 4 years for another world tour, fewer dates to keep Jon and the band fresh next time round. Quality over quantity is needed as the band approach their final lap.

I can't see how we can get a proper rock album when Jon hasn't got the vocals to sing it. We will get boring mid-tempo songs that Jon can manage to sing without sounding like a strangled cat.
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Old 12-17-2013, 09:16 PM
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He writes set lists with songs that no one wants to hear, because they are easy on his vocals.
the problem is that he doesn't even choose the right ones

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Old 12-17-2013, 09:19 PM
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I'm not a singer but I don't think it's simply a case of "as you get older you'll just sound more and more shit so deal with it". But taking care of your voice is an ongoing thing and I don't think Jon has done that throughout his career.
Steven Tyler still has it...
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Steven Tyler still has it...
Compared to this I think it's fair to say that most of us here have got it more than Jon does there. And judging from the look on Jon's face during Keep The Faith it's fairly obvious he knows he can't sing the song anymore.

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Old 12-17-2013, 09:47 PM
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Songs like Pictures of You, Beautiful World or Room At The End Of The World have not been played live, no release singles. Why not record 2 or 3 great rock songs with high notes and then simply do not play live?. At least could enjoy in the album version.
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Jesus, i've just seen that vid for Keep The Faith. What the hell's going on there....he cant sing anymore...
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