[SuperBrad]

Thx for the feeds Becky ! Glad u enjoyed 😊

[hackster73]

Originally Posted by manarosi

https://youtu.be/_-9CbZVx2jU min 3.12 playback??

That is a car crash. He is struggling all the way through it.

[efpg0708]

Originally Posted by hackster73

That is a car crash. He is struggling all the way through it.

It puzzles me to see people considering this as "sounding good". I know one can still have fun and enjoy the concerts, but there's no way people don't notice how bad he's sounding. In Dusseldorf and Zurich 2011 his voice was shite, however miles ahead of this, and a lot of people from this board who were there (including me) pointed that out before watching youtube videos.

My brother is attending tomorrow's concert with his wife. They are both casual fans who live in Cleveland. My brother asked me what to expect, and I just told him to go and have fun. Don't want to rush him into any pre-judgement.

[TheJerseySyndicate]

Originally Posted by efpg0708

It puzzles me to see people considering this as "sounding good". I know one can still have fun and enjoy the concerts, but there's no way that people don't notice how bad he's sounding. In Dusseldorf and Zurich 2011 his voice was shite, however miles ahead of this, and a lot of people from this board who were there (including me) pointed that out before watching youtube videos.

My brother is attending tomorrow's concert with his wife. They are both casual fans who live in Cleveland. My brother asked me what to expect, and I just told him to go and have fun. Don't want to rush him into any pre-judgement.

Totally agree on this one.

[DryCounty]

Originally Posted by efpg0708

It puzzles me to see people considering this as "sounding good". I know one can still have fun and enjoy the concerts, but there's no way that people don't notice how bad he's sounding. In Dusseldorf and Zurich 2011 his voice was shite, however miles ahead of this, and a lot of people from this board who were there (including me) pointed that out before watching youtube videos.

My brother is attending tomorrow's concert with his wife. They are both casual fans who live in Cleveland. My brother asked me what to expect, and I just told him to go and have fun. Don't want to rush him into any pre-judgement.

Agree. The whole "when-you're-at-concert-you-don't-hear-how-bad-he-sounds"-argument is getting way out of hand on this board. It has kind of worked like a defence mechanism for people who lives in denial about how bad it is. I enjoyed both my 2013 shows but man I would have had to be deaf to not hear that he sounded very weak in certain songs.

[Walleris]

Originally Posted by DryCounty

Agree. The whole "when-you're-at-concert-you-don't-hear-how-bad-he-sounds"-argument is getting way out of hand on this board. It has kind of worked like a defence mechanism for people who lives in denial about how bad it is. I enjoyed both my 2013 shows but man I would have had to be deaf to not hear that he sounded very weak in certain songs.

bla bla bla who cares music is not about singing!!!!! bla bla bla move on it's not 1989 anymore!!!!!

[efpg0708]

Originally Posted by DryCounty

Agree. The whole "when-you're-at-concert-you-don't-hear-how-bad-he-sounds"-argument is getting way out of hand on this board. It has kind of worked like a defence mechanism for people who lives in denial about how bad it is. I enjoyed both my 2013 shows but man I would have had to be deaf to not hear that he sounded very weak in certain songs.

This. Couldn't agree more.

[Rdkopper]

Originally Posted by DryCounty

Agree. The whole "when-you're-at-concert-you-don't-hear-how-bad-he-sounds"-argument is getting way out of hand on this board. It has kind of worked like a defence mechanism for people who lives in denial about how bad it is. I enjoyed both my 2013 shows but man I would have had to be deaf to not hear that he sounded very weak in certain songs.

See, I think you are just missing the point... As this tour rolls on and the more people actually attend, we are getting a lot of similar feedback... For starters, Jon is somewhat improving.... But watching these videos is like zooming into a pimple on a models face... Sure that pimple will look ugly until you start to zoom out... Even though it's still there, once you see her entire face, it's not as bad...

Jon's voice is shot... Not doubt... He sings some songs better than others... He's very good with the new stuff and the filler tracks.. When the hits are played, he uses a lot of tricks... He uses backing tracks, background singers, he relies on the crowds and acoustics... All singers do this... And the end result is a very enjoyable show...

It's not just us saying this... It's 20 thousand people a night too..

[efpg0708]

Originally Posted by Rdkopper

See, I think you are just missing the point... As this tour rolls on and the more people actually attend, we are getting a lot of similar feedback... For starters, Jon is somewhat improving.... But watching these videos is like zooming into a pimple on a models face... Sure that pimple will look ugly until you start to zoom out... Even though it's still there, once you see her entire face, it's not as bad...

Jon's voice is shot... Not doubt... He sings some songs better than others... He's very good with the new stuff and the filler tracks.. When the hits are played, he uses a lot of tricks... He uses backing tracks, background singers, he relies on the crowds and acoustics... All singers do this... And the end result is a very enjoyable show...

It's not just us saying this... It's 20 thousand people a night too..

Once again, no one is saying the shows are crap and people are not having a good time. For the casual fan, the show is still pretty good: the band is playing very well, there are a lot of hits on the set, and the rest of the band is covering a lot for Jon. Also, he's avoiding playing songs that demand more vocally, like I'll be there for You and Bed of Roses. When he tried Always, he failed. And considering that the majority of the people who write those reviews don't have a clue about music or the band itself, it's no surprise that they have been good.

My point is that Jon sounds so bad nowadays that I don't see how can someone go to a BJ concert and say: Wow, he's a great singer. As I said before, I've been to shows in which his voice was bad and not only myself but a lot of other members here noticed it.

Regarding the attendence ... even in 2010/2011 the vast majority of concerts in Europe were far from sold out. In 2013 he played for half-empty stadiums on more than a few ocasions. With very few exceptions, you can buy a ticket at the day of the show for this tour. They still have a good market in the US, but even there the attendence is beginning to decline.

[Rdkopper]

Originally Posted by efpg0708

Once again, no one is saying the shows are crap and people are not having a good time. For the casual fan, the show is still pretty good: the band is playing very well, there are a lot of hits on the set, and the rest of the band is covering a lot for Jon. Also, he's avoiding playing songs that demand more vocally, like I'll be there for You and Bed of Roses. When he tried Always, he failed. And considering that the majority of the people who write those reviews don't have a clue about music or the band itself, it's no surprise that they have been good.

My point is that Jon sounds so bad nowadays that I don't see how can someone go to a BJ concert and say: Wow, he's a great singer. As I said before, I've been to shows in which his voice was bad and not only myself but a lot of other members here noticed it.

Regarding the attendence ... even in 2010/2011 the vast majority of concerts in Europe were far from sold out. In 2013 he played for half-empty stadiums on more than a few ocasions. With very few exceptions, you can buy a ticket at the day of the show for this tour. They still have a good market in the US, but even there the attendence is beginning to decline.

Have you actually attended a show yet???





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