March 4th 2017 - Talking Stick Resort Arena, Phoenix Thread

gabriele · #81 03-06-2017, 09:59 AM

I think this is the best performance by jon in this tour. He sangs much better than the past concert.

Jeeper · #82 03-06-2017, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rosa3

Yes, they did mentioned his vocals, and this one I can appreciate because unlike some people here (not you of course) but some here just go on and criticize his vocals without even being at the show and just criticizing him for the sake of it. At least this reviewer was actually there at the show, he knows how he sounded, I'm sure he had at least decent seats to hear him well enough, he was honest, he didn't say he was perfect, he did took down a note or two in some songs with higher range, but for the reviewer he sang well enough, maybe some here who love to go one about his vocals can maybe take a lesson from this reviewer, you can have some constructive critisism without being arrogant or obnoxious.

This board is very lenient regarding Jon's vocals. Several members who no longer post here, would have been FAR more critical.

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symbeline · #83 03-06-2017, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeeper

This board is very lenient regarding Jon's vocals. Several members who no longer post here, would have been FAR more critical.

To be fair, the people who don't post here anymore probably don't accept this Jon and never will and why should they if they have different expectations? Being a fan is not a life sentence either...

On the other hand, lowering expectations, being able to adapt to a worse situation, don't make the rest of the fans stupid (not that you said that or it's implied, to be clear). Unless we are blind and deaf and won't admit this band is not at its best right now.

JackieBlue · #84 03-06-2017, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by symbeline

... Being a fan is not a life sentence either...

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Good one!

rosa3 · #85 03-06-2017, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by symbeline

To be fair, the people who don't post here anymore probably don't accept this Jon and never will and why should they if they have different expectations? Being a fan is not a life sentence either...

On the other hand, lowering expectations, being able to adapt to a worse situation, don't make the rest of the fans stupid (not that you said that or it's implied, to be clear). Unless we are blind and deaf and won't admit this band is not at its best right now.

The reason why some ppl don't post here anymore is because of the negative beating a dead horse thing on Jon's vocals, and FYI, alot of fans are not in denial about Jon's voice and performance, we accept and that he is now 55, not 25, and that this is 2017, not 1987, yes, 1987 was a great year and great fun to see Bon Jovi at that time, but 30 years is a long time ago and things and people change. The ones here that complain and judge his voice are the ones who won't accept that Jon is not the same Jon from 1987, the fans who you claim are in "denial" that his voice is not good anymore, are the fans who accept and happy with Jon and the band of 2017.

DryCounty · #86 03-06-2017, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rosa3

The reason why some ppl don't post here anymore is because of the negative beating a dead horse thing on Jon's vocals, and FYI, alot of fans are not in denial about Jon's voice and performance, we accept and that he is now 55, not 25, and that this is 2017, not 1987, yes, 1987 was a great year and great fun to see Bon Jovi at that time, but 30 years is a long time ago and things and people change. The ones here that complain and judge his voice are the ones who won't accept that Jon is not the same Jon from 1987, the fans who you claim are in "denial" that his voice is not good anymore, are the fans who accept and happy with Jon and the band of 2017.

Where have you read that anyone would get the idea to compare Jon now to the Jon 1987?

People are however comparing today Jon to the 2011 Jon, or even early 2013 Jon which is a perfectly reasonable comparision considering it was only a few years ago and he sounded petty great then.