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Sales are great, Nº1 records all over the world and they have 2 times in 3 years the highest grossing tour, so it's not like they're on a black hole. Stop trying to create an inexistent crysis.

Less sales? Yeah, people don't buy so much records as before, we got The Pirate Bay, YouTube and music streaming like Last.FM or Spotify these days. But still Nº1 all over the world, so is not like they're not selling.

Also, average young audience thinks "Bon Jovi = HAND, It's My Life". So I'm thinking these kids give a **** about it. When I went to their BS AS gigs I saw teenagers talking about how great The Circle was and even I was WTF as I think that's their worst record.

And I'm not saying "Post 2000 BJ > Pre 2000 BJ". I love These Days, the '80s and 90's were their best era, but that doesn't mean they started sucking and went off the radar.

They're killing it on the charts. They have post-2000 hits. They are breaking records on tour. They're not nostalgia.

Not record charts. Maybe ticket charts, because idiots like me just dropped $150 per ticket yesterday to see them in July.

Hah! This will be the first time I am not spending any money to see them in over 10 years. And unless something miraculous happens (like my sister decides to visit me around the 5th of July !!) there's no way I will spend any money.

Still - die-hards are just a minority. And Bon Jovi isn't cheap. The majority is composed of regular people who want to have a good night out. And Bon Jovi are probably big enough, safe enough, and popular enough to cater to HOARDS of people. A couple of terribly bad records won't change that. That's why they sell. Couple that with smart date selection and massive promotion (never seen ANY band being advertised as heavily as Bon Jovi is in London nowadays - every 2nd bus has Bon Jovi written all over it!) and taaaa-daaaa....biggest tour in the world, again!

If only AC/DC came back for a couple of shows, to show the world what a stadium show should look like! Wishful thinking...

No young people? I don't know what shows you are going too but the ones that I go too, there are young people all the time. In fact, I am surprised sometimes at how many young people are at the shows. My nephew who is 20 is a huge fan and it's not from me. He just loves their stuff.

You want me to upload again that image where it shows the number ones of the Bon Jovi records or you want to search it yourself?

And tickets are not that expensive, they cost as much as the ones of Aerosmith (at least on Argentina) and the BJ show was twice as long as their so...

Aloha !

You're doing the same Bon Jovi does. Citing sources and examples and taking them out of context to make them look better. Bon Jovi haven't had a worldwide hit in 8 years now, Have A Nice Day was their last one. The album sales are only as strong as they are because of them having a rather large fanbase that buys the new record despite of what's on it.

Once an album's out for a week or two they disappear rather quickly from the charts. The Circle was the third largest declining number 1 album ever having been on the Billboard Hot 100. And it cost about 4 dollars on Amazon. Having a number 1 record is by no means an easy task, but to claim they're still rather big is an overstatement. These Days made it to number 9 yet I'm quite sure it sold more copies than The Circle did, just like This Ain't A Love Song was a way bigger hit over there than anything the band have released the past 5 years. And this is just America we're talking about, when looking at the European market Bon Jovi have become rather invisible in the charts, despite having all these top 10 records.

Number 1 tours are another example that don't directly indicate how popular the band really is. Number 1 tours talk about total gross made, which is no longer directly linked to amount of tickets sold. Bon Jovi play 2 shows at Madison Square Garden and make $4,079,017. Metallica play the same venue twice and make $2,539,232. According to the stats you keep coming up with Bon Jovi are the bigger band here. Yet Metallica's shows were deemed sold out within an hour, and for Bon Jovi's shows tickets were still available on the day of the show, yet it was declared sold out a day later.

If you're going to use sources to back up your statements, make sure you use them in the right context. Just copying information they present to you is something anyone can do, it's using the content to come up with a conclusion yourself that's the harder thing here.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

So, not putting a huge worldwide hit for 8 years when you have a career of 30 makes you a nostalgia act? Then what's left for Poison or even Europe? Also, you say that their lastest was HAND, but here Memory was a "hit" (not like IML or HAND, but a hit), and it was on top 10 or a lot of European countries, and top 40 on UK and US and you said in a previous post that that was the line to consider a song a "hit".

I understand a nostalgia act as those bands that you go see only for the songs they wrote on their moment of glory. They had some hits, their moment of glory and went off the radar, they might still write songs, and they might not, and if they do, they sink on the charts and have no airplay. That's not the situation of Bon Jovi. Young people go to see Bon Jovi, and they go to see them for albums like Crush, Bounce and Have A Nice Day, not Slippery or New Jersey.

Also, I've already said that The Circle was a commercial failure and IMO it was deserved as it was a pretty weak album but only a commercial failure (yeah, failure but let's not forget the fact of the number ones) doesn't make them a nostalgia band.

And the whole "they sell less" thing is explained by the fact that people buy less records, even Maroon 5 or Taylor Swift that are bigger than ever now sold less records with Overexposed and Red compared with previous releases!

How on earth does that paragraph of yours make any sense at all??? It's basic supply/demand economics really, so what you post makes little sense whatsoever …and it's all misleading.



If you need me to explain, let me know, I might find some time.

I agree with most of what you said Seb, but the above just goes to show how much the meaning of charts has changed in the US. Though TAALS charted higher, MaM, Lost Highway, WWBTF, Superman Tonight, and What Do You Got are way more well known in the States these days (no pun intended).