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Old 09-17-2016, 05:00 PM
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Jon Bon Jovi, is on The One Show, on BBC 1, This Thursday 22nd September 2016.
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Old 09-17-2016, 05:09 PM
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But they are giving away tickets for all 4 shows, aren't they? At least that's what I understood...

It'll be like 5 tickets per show but hey, who's complaining? Not me or the other 99% of the fans who can't afford (or won't pay) the outrageous price. They care about the poor people

If I had that money, I'd pay to see THE BAND. But like 1/10 of that price lol

Wish me luck if there's a giveaway. I need 3-4 tickets he he
Yes, I'm waiting for the details on how the "give aways" will work!! I never win at those things but will try for sure.
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Okay, so I agree with everyone about the prices..

But... On the other hand they have to figure out new business models to keep the recordcompany happy.. Couldn't this be one of those things where a lot of this income will go to them?

BTW I went to a smaller BJ show once in 2005 or 2004 and I wasn't really impressed by that, I liked the big shows more. And I guess the chances are pretty big that they're going to play the whole album on the following tour too, so how much will we really be missing?

A show like the NY'92 one would be pretty awesome or some half acoustic show, but is this really that?

So if this is a way to keep the recordcompany happy I don't mind.. If that's not the reason, it would be a bit crappy indeed. Either way, we'll at least get the live streaming for free.

I wonder if they're going to support this Tidal thing more with extra content in the future.. I like the idea behind Tidal, but their execution is shit.
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Okay, so I agree with everyone about the prices..

But... On the other hand they have to figure out new business models to keep the recordcompany happy.. Couldn't this be one of those things where a lot of this income will go to them?

BTW I went to a smaller BJ show once in 2005 or 2004 and I wasn't really impressed by that, I liked the big shows more. And I guess the chances are pretty big that they're going to play the whole album on the following tour too, so how much will we really be missing?

A show like the NY'92 one would be pretty awesome or some half acoustic show, but is this really that?

So if this is a way to keep the recordcompany happy I don't mind.. If that's not the reason, it would be a bit crappy indeed. Either way, we'll at least get the live streaming for free.

I wonder if they're going to support this Tidal thing more with extra content in the future.. I like the idea behind Tidal, but their execution is shit.
Their current contract would have to be tied into this, which is possible. Then again the prices for these events have always been extraordinary so I don't think anythings changed, at least not enough for them to hike up the price.
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Old 09-17-2016, 06:16 PM
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The have a nice day promo show in Amsterdam back in 2005 only costed 35€. Big difference here.. I know both Jon and Matt have to eat but for me this feels like they are stealing from the die hards. There is no way I can afford this, or would be willing to pay for a concert.
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The have a nice day promo show in Amsterdam back in 2005 only costed 35€. Big difference here.. I know both Jon and Matt have to eat but for me this feels like they are stealing from the die hards. There is no way I can afford this, or would be willing to pay for a concert.
35€ ? What....?

I doubt I would enjoy smaller shows with the current Bon Jovi quality. You would need a lot of detail and good musicianship. The Kiel show 2003 was good because there were nice harmonies betweeen Jon and Richie, nice guitar playing and even some surprises and some good vocals by Jon. Seeing them in 2013 in Berlin made it obvious what a difference 10 years can make.
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35€ ? What....?

I doubt I would enjoy smaller shows with the current Bon Jovi quality. You would need a lot of detail and good musicianship. The Kiel show 2003 was good because there were nice harmonies betweeen Jon and Richie, nice guitar playing and even some surprises and some good vocals by Jon. Seeing them in 2013 in Berlin made it obvious what a difference 10 years can make.
And even Berlin was quite a good show comparing it to other shows later in the tour. They are moneygrabbers now, which is a shame but understandable. This machine will stop running in a few years and they need to make sure the whole family doesn't have to work anymore.
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The have a nice day promo show in Amsterdam back in 2005 only costed 35€. Big difference here.. I know both Jon and Matt have to eat but for me this feels like they are stealing from the die hards. There is no way I can afford this, or would be willing to pay for a concert.
And I saw them for free in 2002 a couple rows from the stage arriving like 30 mins before it started. A show that was supposed to be a short promo thing but ended up more than an hour long. But I understand increasing the prices. Free is not an option anymore for bands like BJ for many reasons. 35€ is extremely cheap, so is 50€, 100€... Anything close to their price bracket for a band show is too cheap, and I really understand.

The RT business is one thing, one that I don't get at all (how can people pay, not the idea), but hey it's their prerogative. They sure cater to a type of costumer they want to keep happy. End of story. But a promo show for a new album, full band, electric (I suppose!), has no place in the RT universe because it's not the audience they should be aiming for. The ones who pay for a RT show will probably not pay for a regular show because they had the mega exclusive experience. Some will, sure, but not the vast majority, so they can't charge a lot more than they did the last tour. They can, but who's going to fill up the venues if the regulars are dwindling and the diehards are disappointed and have almost given up? Sure somebody at BJ camp knows there won't be a huge demand for the upcoming tour and selling the idea that only the very rich are dear to the band...

Like many have said, people who go to RT shows are existing fans or simply rich folks that want to have that experience under their belts, what percentage of new fans can they possibly gain with every show? They could really keep all the fans happy by giving away a decent number of tickets and creating expectations and excitement. Imagine a 10-12 show mini-tour where there's a chance to win let's say 500 tickets. I bet the lucky fans would enjoy the experience immensely and would be eager to pay to see more shows when the real tour starts.

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Old 09-17-2016, 07:41 PM
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And even Berlin was quite a good show comparing it to other shows later in the tour. They are moneygrabbers now, which is a shame but understandable. This machine will stop running in a few years and they need to make sure the whole family doesn't have to work anymore.

Really? I thought Berlin was like a cover band playing Bon Jovi. Nobody seemed to really like it.
I am pretty sure nobody from this family has to work in their lives. They could easily do a decent tour (well 'easily' being more of a figure of speech here, considering Jon's vocals) and when they are done Jon could offer 1000 RT shows for all I care, but he can make money with that.
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Old 09-17-2016, 11:40 PM
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Sorry if I missed this, but was there a video of This House and/or Knockout performances?
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