New shows (promo?)

I know a lot of it is fawning arse licking and they wouldn't say the opposite, but it's positive how the interviewers are making a point that the album is really good.

It's almost a shame this promo push is a month before release, but there may be more when they play the Palladium.

Not a life sentence again I guess he is deliberately inviting the question to get it explained to everyone that this is the band sans Richie, but it's the tiring soundbite of the 2016 interviews.

To be fair, what is he supposed to say? He's given way to a more open way of answering the question but really saying the same thing. That's the first time I heard him say something about him not agreeing with the way he quit and the excuse he gave which was to spend more time with his daughter, but he simpatized with it anyway. I know people want more dirt and there's probably more that will never be said but that seems like a great explanation to a question that will no doubt be asked in every interview in this promo cycle....

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While that's nice, I remember the same feedback during The Circle interviews, so my hopes aren't reaching the sky anyway.

What is common though, this time around, is they are singling out Scars on This Guitar as very good. Why pick on that one song when it's not even a single as yet?


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I loved and still love The Circle, if the album's as good or is better than that, I'll be okay with that lol.

Not more dirt, just the same phrase over and over and over again, but then that's just because of us the few fans watching all of the interviews whereas it's intended to be the same verse for all those just catching the 1 interview. It does almost feel like the interviewers have all been briefed to ask that very question so Jon can trot out the same explanation for those that haven't heard it. It's just that I've heard it about 4 times this week that's all

if you experienced you can turn around most questions and give the answer you want and think is fitting so i guess i jon isnt loose we ll get the no life sentence answer again and again, its a title, no negative, no open to interpretations, he ll repeat it til we are tired asking, lets see who will win...
he used the word presice as far as the tour goes, my gues is 50-70 shows, the big factors being the demand and the state of his voice, if he feels he embarasses himself he wont extend it, if those factors are with positive results i see it very possible for added legs like it happened in the past.
regarding richie he stated for the first time i think he isnt happy with the way he sold them out on a tour
ps1.i hope there will be some heavy us promo and some more uk interviews when they ll be back...
ps2,whoever has followed jon knows he is allergic to certain words.\/meanings...he doesnt like the word fear for example..whenever anyone uses it his response is no, it was never fear etc and partially i believe him but i have also heard him numerous times saying its the first time i m afraid lol...what i m trying to say is i sense jon is indeed scared this time, how they will receive him, how he ll be a frontman again, if his vocals will improve, fear and insecurity is a part of any artistic endeavour and maybe the jersey thing pushes him to deny it, he denies the obvious though...(i also wanna add that i m sure was many times scared in his career if they ll pull it through, and that also shows in his songwriting and past attitude, i dont consider it negative in anyway just pointing out that he should embrace it)

Richie’s leaving the way he did was a shitty move blah blah, whether you believe his reasons/understand them (don’t want to start the debate again, just stating facts). But that doesn’t make him a terrible person, nor does it negate his legacy/importance in the band. Except for a couplish times where Jon’s perfectly crafted “we-are-too-good-for-this-we-air-our-laundry-in-private” façade slipped a little bit, once the worst was over he’s managed to maintain their excellent reputation thanks to a simple but perfect damage control statement: “He didn’t show up on show day. Being in a rock band is not a life sentence. We love him, and wish him no ill will”. End of story, pretty straightforward, everybody is happy, especially now that Richie has also learnt to play the PR game. Why stir the pot then?

Why is Jon not sticking to the script now? The innecessary shade is opening the door to all sorts of speculation. Which *I* don’t have any problem with, hey, if Jon wants to call Richie on his shit he’s perfectly entitled to it, like Richie would if he wanted too. But first Jon needs to get off his high horse. I don’t believe what he’s saying for a minute and never believed it (their first reactions spoke volumes and that’s what I’m sticking to), but he can’t preach about how different they are, how everything is flowers and bunnies while subtly throwing shade. Nope, doesn’t work like that. Just say it like it is, Jon, don't be a damn hypocrite.

I mentioned I think in this same thread my “surprise” a couple of days ago when I first heard Jon mention in the same sentence the reasons why Richie left, stating that he was/is working in some issues while reminding that the guitarist that covered for him had already covered before while Richie was in rehab. Absolutely innecesary to link all those things together if you ask me, lots of fans don’t follow anything not related to the music (even though there was an official statement and all) so they don’t need to know, or even be reminded that Richie was in rehab. I know many rabid fans who think Richie has missed shows prior to 2013 for different illnesses/injuries.
I thought it was a careless remark that could lead to confussion/speculation and I hoped it was just a faux pass. But after hearing all the different interviews Jon has been doing it’s pretty clear that he’s still royally pissed and/or frustrated with Richie and wants to say more. He doesn’t stick to the script even though he knows the question will be asked (and has probably been cleared before with him) and lets slip these small details that make a difference. Mentioning over and over again that Richie has been in rehab in the past, mentioning his issues vaguely, remarking how they haven’t talked to him ever since, and now clearly stating that his excuses are shit. So I’m calling Jon on his shit too. Either he spills the beans or not, people are incredibly prone to speculation and frankly there's no need for that three years after the fact. I think that straying from the script now would do more harm than good in the long term. He’s been asked about Richie almost since the beginning, there’s a perfect PR-approved statement that really says everything fans need to know while keeping the band’s good image. What does Jon think he will accomplish airing the dirty laundry now?

I'm frankly surprised with how he's dealing with it now when it was perfectly swept under the rug and almost forgotten. I understand why he can't, and I've always thought that the whole mafia approach is not going to work in the long term with a person like Jon who seems to be capable of holding a grudge forever, but he can't have his cake and eat it. Leave it alone, really

Well, I guess the reason why he's bringing it up again now is because of the new album, i.e. casual fans who haven't followed the whole drama and early interviews on the subject will wonder why Richie isn't there and will, in Jon's eye, need an explanation. And probably one where Jon will come off as the "good guy" so that people will sympathize with him and buy the record

I can't roll my eyes hard enough at this creation and fleshing out of drama behind Richie's absence and I'm quite certain both (Jon and Richie) of them are right there with me straining their eye sockets.

As with any relationship: mind your damn business and stop framing every word / action as an attack.