New Tour Under Consideration

Aloha !

All your comments are very nice but don't hold up.

The Rolling Stones played three different shows in Holland during the Licks tour.

4 stadium shows. Price per ticket at General Admission: 70E
2 Arena shows. Price per ticket at General Admission: 60E
1 club show. Price per ticket at General Admission: 30E

See the difference? If The Stones are able to do so, then why should Bon Jovi charge 250-300E per ticket? It's ridiculous.

Just like the exclusive thing about Borgata was given as a reason for the high ticket prices. It's such a crap excuse and just meant to charge a lot of money. The concert at Shepherds Bush Empire to promote Bounce had tickets costing 40E. But no, Borgata was exclusive, because it was one off. Rubbish. It's just to cash in.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Yes Seb, I do get the fact that BJ is a band, they always have been for me. Oh and officially it's those four guys together, not five. Hughs a contract player, just like Bobby and Jeff will be if they tour with the band.
the only reason I said expensive is because of the notice High end of the theater market. here in the states, that means $150.00 and up. I have no idea what theater venue tikets go for overseas. It could well be the band will try to keep these shows reasonable, just like tour shows, as long as the expenses are getting covered.
i know you don't like Bobby and Jeff playing with the band, but Bobby is not as bad a payer as you make him out to be. I've heard him and seen him play both with the Jukes and with JBJ, he's really very compotent. He's no Richie by any means but he is a compotent rhythm guitar player.
As for the No Richie scenario, I didn't mean to imply that he wouldn't be around for any of them, in fact I would be surprised if he missed any of it but there is a scenario where a few of these shows could be booked as non band shows with Jon using whomever is around to play them. Unlikely but possible if the main reason for doing them is to relieve the boredom of touring.
As for JBJs voice yes back to back shows are tough on him, however if they aren't doing this in every city and they won't, and since there are often two days btwn arena gigs he could play one of them and still get a voice rest day. I don't see it as a problem.

Im having mixed thoughts about this 'romour'. Im completely in two minds what to believe really...

Firstly, after recent Bon jovi events, I could genuinly see them doing something like this. They do seem to be attempting to rank in as much money as possible. Thing is, they know they can get away with it now. If people are stupid amounts of money for the Bogarta gigs, and are willing to part with again, stupid amounts of their hard earned cash just to go and listen to the new album before anyone else, then naturally BJ management are gonna believe they can still sell out venues around the globe at the high end of th market. I can easily see BJ charging 'U2 style' ticket prices on the next tour. If people continue to pay it, then theyre not going to stop are they? Fans need to stand their ground and not pay up. Thats the only way they will learn that people arent prepared to pay these amounts of money. Why should we be ripped off, having followed the band for X amount of years. I think its extremely unfair.

Secondly, would Bon Jovi seriously be prepared to perform these kind of gigs? Surely not. I honestly cant see them doing shows full of rarities. Its just not like them at all. Like carli said, I think I would still be wanting to see other setlists, before parting with my money, especially if ticket prices are fairly high. I would love this to go ahead sure, but is it realistic? I guess we will have to wait for official announcements.

I agree that some are overpriced. That makes you nearly believe the Borgata show was so expensive to pay for the DVD shoot / web cast

That doesnt add up, theyve done similar shows since and chraged stupid prices

My only comment to the whole "cost" issue of bigger vs. smaller venues is that as a CPA who is involved in tour accounting you all would be amazed at the cost of a tour. The big thing everyone is missing is whether big or small the booking agents, lawyers, and accountants (me, lol) normally take a combined 35% off the top of the box office. That is pretty much standard for top acts. And then you continue the payouts from there for crew, etc. I know everyone just assumes that the band are making an ungodly profit margin on tours and I'm not saying they don't do well, but it no where near what most people, who don't see the break down of the costs, think.

deb

bingo. alot of people think it goes: ticket price x attendance - minus venue hire = net profit / band and it's soooooo not.

but i digress.

seb in response to the stones thing. over here they were charging 50 quid for the worst seats at the SECC, this was like restricted viewing and shit, then it went 80 quid, 150 quid.... something over 200

most bands playing the secc charge 25-30 quid for anywhere.

the stones can afford to just break even or make a small loss on the clubs because the arena gigs subsidised them.

No, Jim, anybody over 20 years old understands that there is overhead cost!

None of you ever address the real issue.

hahahahaha --- the stones playing gigs for the sheer fun of it, to please the fans??? hahahahahahahaaa The Stones are the biggest rip off the music industry has ever seen ---- everybody in the business agrees with that.

But, just for the entertainment purpose, let's say the Stones are a welfare band and play to break even to 'enable' their fans to 'enjoy' their great performances ... you think BJ cannot????

And bjcrazycpa - we all know you are a cpa - it's in your ****ing name!!! Your insight isn't nearly as insightful - it's something people learn in business 101 pretty much a requirement for any college major (ahhhh - I'll try to chill now).

not sure how it goes in that industry exactly but i didnt ready anything (or read over it) that the tour is to get the album (and single) sales up, I can imagine the big margins are being made their. So the extra sales (in)directly linked to a concert in a area should also be taken into account.
So maybe the smaller veneus are targeting (maybe commercially pushed) to have alot more media attention than a regular show would do, geuss for tv & radio is would also be more interesting and therefore have more reneveu by sales

well forgetting everything about cost and logistics with doing it...

supply and demand. we all know they'll sell out small venues for extrotionate prices so why charge less than they could?