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Old 09-12-2013, 04:43 PM
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Calm down. You dropped a comment about ‘Borg/Lund bodyguards’ and you weren’t specific, I asked an honest question about whether you were meaning me and gave a direct opinion. I named you and didn’t leave any doubt about my feelings on it. I also stated that you might not have been referring to me. I could have slipped a seemingly ambiguous comment into a post that was clearly aimed at certain people then when I was called out on it, I could act all emotional and hurt as if I really hadn’t meant any harm at all; attempting to make others seem irrational and unfair.

Oh look. I just did.

I am not picking and creating an alter-ego of you… you favour Jon, you detest the people Richie has around him and you seem to revel in anything that makes him look like a twat. Anyone who reads your posts can see that. That’s fine but embrace it, don’t run away from it and act like an injured bird every time someone has a different opinion. At the beginning of all this, all I said was, I didn’t understand why a friend tweeting how happy he was, was received with such animosity. But this grew into a wider debate about Richie’s involvement in music/fashion etc outside of Bon Jovi and our overall acceptance of it as Bon Jovi fans. Do you want to give your opinion or do you want me to do it for you, seeing as I know you so well?
You don't know shit about me nor, apparently, are you able to read. What you see is what you get, that's the way it's always been with me and the only one who doesn't seem able to understand plain English is you. And, guess what, it's not my ****in' problem. I defended Richie time and time again, here and elsewhere, I love the man and this ordeal saddens me beyond words can say. You know what I think so damn well, that you don't even know I'm beyond this versus match crap. If there's a conflict ("if" still mandatory, although less and less with every passing day), I don't think it's a Jon/Richie thing, I believe all of the band or at least a third member is involved. So, yeah, you know so much about what I think, right. You're arrogant if you think you can speak for others, plain and simple. You can think whatever the **** you want, but no, you can't speak for me, I'm perfectly able to do it myself. Stop trying to do it for me. And for the record, no, I wasn't talking about you when I mentioned the "bodyguards". I wasn't talking about anyone in particular, otherwise I would have made names.
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Old 09-12-2013, 04:50 PM
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You don't know shit about me nor, apparently, are you able to read. What you see is what you get, that's the way it's always been with me and the only who doesn't seem able to understand plain English is you. And, guess what, it's not my ****in' problem. I defended Richie time and time again, here and elsewhere, I love the man and this ordeal saddens me beyond words can say. You know what I think so damn well, that you don't even know I'm beyond this versus match crap. If there's a conflict ("if" still mandatory, although less and less with every passing day), I don't think it's a Jon/Richie thing, I believe all of the band or at least a third member is involved. So, yeah, you know so much about what I think, right. You're arrogant if you think you can speak for others, plain and simple. You can think whatever the **** you want, but no, you can't speak for me, I'm perfectly able to do it myself. Stop trying to do it for me. And for the record, no, I wasn't talking about you when I mentioned the "bodyguards". I wasn't talking about anyone in particular, otherwise I would have made names.
You weren’t speaking about me, great; I even questioned whether you were or not in the original post. YOU were the one who said I apparently speak for you, I only made the one reference to you and that was it. And I DID name names. If you say you do the same, fair enough, crack on, go for it, enjoy yourself. I referred to you directly over ONE comment and then the conversation developed into something interesting on this thread, for a change but somehow, it always comes back to an argument and it gets emotional.

I truly don’t care what you think of me and you’re the one making this all about you, missus. Seriously, chill out.
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Old 09-12-2013, 04:54 PM
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You weren’t speaking about me, great; I even questioned whether you were or not in the original post. YOU were the one who said I apparently speak for you, I only made the one reference to you and that was it. And I DID name names. If you say you do the same, fair enough, crack on, go for it, enjoy yourself. I referred to you directly over ONE comment and then the conversation developed into something interesting on this thread, for a change but somehow, it always comes back to an argument and it gets emotional.

I truly don’t care what you think of me and you’re the one making this all about you, missus. Seriously, chill out.
Great, I'm fine with that. I'm fine with you not caring about what I think, it's much better than you making it up for me. Now, as you said, let's chill out and hopefully something on-topic will come up before this conversation turns out to be the most exciting thing from this thread today. Now, that would be sad.
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Old 09-12-2013, 05:27 PM
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Jon and Bryan are with Ticco in the hospital. How awkward would it be if Richie showed up.................
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Old 09-12-2013, 05:31 PM
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Re Richie's new song.

I am not a huge fan of that slow style that him and Jon automatically think is emotive because it is slow, when in fact it is boring. However, let's be honest, it is infinitely better than Come Back As Me.

However, I am a huge Elton fan (70s at least) and it took about 10 seconds of Richie singing to know that is a Taupin lyric, in fact I think even someone with passing knowledge of Taupin's work would know that. How much Richie contributed to those lyrics is a mystery, although I don't know why Bernie would get involved unless he heavily influenced the lyrics.

Either way though, why is it even a problem? Elton gets a ton of praise for just writing the music, Richie does it and it somehow takes something away. He still co-wrote the track, and this work lends further credence to the theory that there are avenues for Richie to work in outside Bon Jovi, as long as he readjusts his expectations for what success is or isn't.

I would give the song 4/10 just from personal taste but would prefer an album of that over an album of songs like Come Back As Me.
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Old 09-12-2013, 06:02 PM
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Jon and Bryan are with Ticco in the hospital. How awkward would it be if Richie showed up.................
Especially if he showed up with a more fashionable hospital gown for Tico to wear.
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Old 09-12-2013, 06:13 PM
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Jon and Bryan are with Ticco in the hospital. How awkward would it be if Richie showed up.................
I don't think it would be awkward. In fact, I hope Richie invites Tico to recuperate at his home in Los Angeles instead of traveling all the way to his home to Florida after he's released from the hospital.

By the way, did you see where Jon said that Tico offered to have the appendectomy AFTER he did the gig? Good thing he wasn't in labor, LOL!
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You don't know shit about me nor, apparently, are you able to read. What you see is what you get, that's the way it's always been with me and the only one who doesn't seem able to understand plain English is you. And, guess what, it's not my ****in' problem. I defended Richie time and time again, here and elsewhere, I love the man and this ordeal saddens me beyond words can say. You know what I think so damn well, that you don't even know I'm beyond this versus match crap. If there's a conflict ("if" still mandatory, although less and less with every passing day), I don't think it's a Jon/Richie thing, I believe all of the band or at least a third member is involved. So, yeah, you know so much about what I think, right. You're arrogant if you think you can speak for others, plain and simple. You can think whatever the **** you want, but no, you can't speak for me, I'm perfectly able to do it myself. Stop trying to do it for me. And for the record, no, I wasn't talking about you when I mentioned the "bodyguards". I wasn't talking about anyone in particular, otherwise I would have made names.
For Christ's sake, stop moaning like a little bitch. You're sounding like Eric with a K more and more and believe me, that aint good. One of the reasons why I dont go on here much is you. Highjacking threads with your constant whining, blah blah. Its too negative. Get a grip. Cheer up, get laid (if your old enough) and just chill the **** out. 1000 posts of just moaning. We get it that you love this band - as you tell us on every post. Be happy, smile and be constructive.
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Re Richie's new song.

I am not a huge fan of that slow style that him and Jon automatically think is emotive because it is slow, when in fact it is boring. However, let's be honest, it is infinitely better than Come Back As Me.
This. Come Back As Me was never meant as a serious attempt at creating something deep, but this is and it's just so incredibly bland and predictable. If you think this kind of stuff is missing from Bon Jovi I kind of wonder what you honestly expect from the band nowadays. There's the melodramatic piano, some acoustic guitar strumming just so he's playing on the track as well, and then there's him singing those lyrics in the most boring way as possible.

But besides all of that, I just can't take a cluster**** like Richie Sambora seriously anymore when it comes to writing serious music. I feel he's been trying to use his "issues" as a selling point for some time now, and it wouldn't surprise me if he'd use 9/11 to try to get a solo track aired on radio, much like "I'll Always Walk Beside You" was dedicated to the victims of Hurricane Sandy. It's bogus and so far fetched that the man should be ashamed of promoting his music this way.

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For Christ's sake, stop moaning like a little bitch. You're sounding like Eric with a K more and more and believe me, that aint good. One of the reasons why I dont go on here much is you. Highjacking threads with your constant whining, blah blah. Its too negative. Get a grip. Cheer up, get laid (if your old enough) and just chill the **** out. 1000 posts of just moaning. We get it that you love this band - as you tell us on every post. Be happy, smile and be constructive.
Shame about the Eric with a K comment because he's my BFF but as for the rest...I agree with you. Whoohoo, we seem to have found some common ground.

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Shame about the Eric with a K comment because he's my BFF but as for the rest...I agree with you. Whoohoo, we seem to have found some common ground.

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Sorry. I like him really. He knows that as well, just don't tell him - it'll go to his head.

Is it just me or is it incredibly boring on here at the moment. It's more boring mid tour than pre/post tour. Rolo's the only one providing a little bit of light/humour. Somebody do something....please.
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