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Old 06-23-2014, 04:42 PM
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The problem is himself. He doesn't look like someone who has his life in order and is doing what he loves.
Its sure. But I doubt make a new album and a tour with bon jovi during 11 months is right. There is some truth in Richie. In these last years there is an excess of Jovi album and tour. He has lost his social life. He lost the way, things he loved.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:56 PM
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Yeah, whatever. That interview is pure bullshit...
And you know this because...?
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To be honest, I don't really see it so dramatic. It's a gathering of common things that I've mentioned that happen to a lot of people. Also just a thought, maybe I'm wrong but I could very well be right too.

His father died around 2005 (right?) and his steady decline kinda started around that time from what I can remember.

He IS a drunk drug addict. He may be a recovering one but he will always be an addict. Also a happy independent and centered person does not bash your former friend/employer every chance he gets.

I don't even want to begin about his daughter, having to read and see all that shit he says and him ****ing every blonde that worked with him.

The saddest part would be if he believed everything he says.

I think he does.

I once thought him the greatest but he thinks that enough without me any more. He's listening with the wrong head and it obviously has no ears.
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Old 06-23-2014, 05:05 PM
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And you know this because...?
I don't know it, I just extrapolate from every other bullshit contradictory interview he ever did.
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Old 06-23-2014, 05:10 PM
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Yeah, whatever. That interview is pure bullshit.

You know what I think the problem with Sambora is?

He's an adult child, broken down mentally by his fathers passing and surrounded by people that only care about money and fill his head with praises.
He's a depressive addict, living in denial since there is NO CHANCE IN HELL he believes he's singing/playing/composing great music.
He can't settle down in a stable and healthy relationship, nailing everybody he works with in stupid unprofessional affairs.

His life is a mess, and the reflection of that is seen in the shows. They are a mess.

Also I believe that being on TV with Craig helped him because it forced him to take a little bit of care of himself, at least his image.
God, how I detest people making this type of judgements about other people's lives just because they live in the 'what is expected', 'normal' etc. You have no idea what is going on in the man's life or head, yet you come up with stuff like 'he's an adult child' because - what? People in their 50s should be settled down, play with grandchildren, and not have a blast of a time showing up with a 30 year old blonde who happens to be the most exciting female guitarist on the planet.

Yes, Sambora is sloppy as hell, and sure, what he does off stage affects what he does on stage. Yet who the hell are you to say what a 'stable and healthy' relationship is? And what makes you think that you're imaginary perception of a 19th century catholic family is what would improve Richie's playing? Most great music was done when people were off their socks. Sambora trying to be someone he's not is what led to this. But that's just a different angle to the story. While I may think that, who the hell am I to pass such judgement?!?
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Old 06-23-2014, 05:14 PM
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But I doubt make a new album and a tour with bon jovi during 11 months is right. There is some truth in Richie. In these last years there is an excess of Jovi album and tour. He has lost his social life. He lost the way, things he loved.
Is it really? Is it a problem for a company to pursue more income? Since it's pretty clear (and implied in the documentary) that Bon Jovi is a money factory, I see no problem AND NO SURPRISE that was the case. Of course if they are making huge tour money the machine would continue.

Also, I'm not one of those people that blame Richie for leaving mid-tour. I think that you can quit your job anytime you want and you don't owe any explanations to the fans. I know it's a grey area since one could argue that fans bought tickets hoping for something and getting a little less than that. The tour continued anyway. I think we talked much about that already.

Also, did he lose his social life? Nobody can tell, since we don't know what was/is his social life. About the things he loved, I don't really know what does he love, he just seems really sad to me.
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God, how I detest people making this type of judgements about other people's lives just because they live in the 'what is expected', 'normal' etc. You have no idea what is going on in the man's life or head, yet you come up with stuff like 'he's an adult child' because - what? People in their 50s should be settled down, play with grandchildren, and not have a blast of a time showing up with a 30 year old blonde who happens to be the most exciting female guitarist on the planet.

Yes, Sambora is sloppy as hell, and sure, what he does off stage affects what he does on stage. Yet who the hell are you to say what a 'stable and healthy' relationship is? And what makes you think that you're imaginary perception of a 19th century catholic family is what would improve Richie's playing? Most great music was done when people were off their socks. Sambora trying to be someone he's not is what led to this. But that's just a different angle to the story. While I may think that, who the hell am I to pass such judgement?!?
Just chill. It's a theory, based in the little I see or hear of him.

Also, I don't really see him having a "blast of a time". Yeah sure, he says that, but I don't see it.

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Old 06-23-2014, 05:38 PM
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Just chill. It's a theory, based in the little I see or hear of him.

Also, I don't really see him having a "blast of a time". Yeah sure, he says that, but I don't see it.
Ohh well...if YOU don't see it, then...well....then he should probably go back to his suburban home, marry a soccer mom wife who can take care of Ava, and finally, live the dream life that will probably magically bring back his guitar skills and his creativity.

It's a bullshit theory based on some preconceptions on what is and what isn't normal. And let's leave it at that. Neither of us knows what is actually happening with Richie and surely, it's not his purpose in life to make some loser fans happy. If that's what rocks his boat, so be it. Doesn't mean we can't criticise his playing, singing and gigs. Which are shit!
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Ohh well...if YOU don't see it, then...well....then he should probably go back to his suburban home, marry a soccer mom wife who can take care of Ava, and finally, live the dream life that will probably magically bring back his guitar skills and his creativity.

It's a bullshit theory based on some preconceptions on what is and what isn't normal. And let's leave it at that. Neither of us knows what is actually happening with Richie and surely, it's not his purpose in life to make some loser fans happy. If that's what rocks his boat, so be it. Doesn't mean we can't criticise his playing, singing and gigs. Which are shit!
Yeah that sounds boring. How about I keep on judging away and you keep on criticizing his playing?
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:00 PM
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God, how I detest people making this type of judgements about other people's lives just because they live in the 'what is expected', 'normal' etc. You have no idea what is going on in the man's life or head, yet you come up with stuff like 'he's an adult child' because - what? People in their 50s should be settled down, play with grandchildren, and not have a blast of a time showing up with a 30 year old blonde who happens to be the most exciting female guitarist on the planet.

Yes, Sambora is sloppy as hell, and sure, what he does off stage affects what he does on stage. Yet who the hell are you to say what a 'stable and healthy' relationship is? And what makes you think that you're imaginary perception of a 19th century catholic family is what would improve Richie's playing? Most great music was done when people were off their socks. Sambora trying to be someone he's not is what led to this. But that's just a different angle to the story. While I may think that, who the hell am I to pass such judgement?!?
This is a discussion forum. Passing judgement based on actions is what a forum is all about. It's a court of public opinion, not a court of law. Relax.

I agree with Lea that he's acting like an adult child. His digs at Jon and the band at his shows is a perfect example (my songs/his songs, famous face, etc). He's said a few times recently how he encourages the band to improvise to show their creativity which implies that's exactly what Jon would not allow him to do at Bon Jovi shows. Not a bad thing at all but the result has been a sloppy bar-band level of playing. If his goal is to just have fun, fine, but he seems to be trying very hard to be the exact opposite type of leader Jon is just to prove something. He should also keep his mouth shut about the band that ultimately enabled him to sell solo tickets today. I used to think he was the cool, laid back one of the group but lately he's been coming across as a complete douche with an ax to grind.
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