No Richie on current leg of the tour

rolo_tomachi · #**2601** 05-01-2013, 10:15 AM

Bon Jovi are my Beatles, my Rolling Stones, if Richie missing, it's like missing Lennon or Richards. I could not go to a show without Sambora, because for me (IMO) would not have magic on stage.

afk · #**2602** 05-01-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rightsideofwrong

Hope all is well with your father crush.

Me too. Best wishes!

RonJovi · #**2603** 05-01-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Beaky

I am giving up my tickets, so I guess this is aimed at 'people like me' and frankly, you are such an amazing person and I wish I was more like you. I am such a bad fan and you are so dedicated and I am such a waster.

The fact that I wouldn't want to see a band that is no longer a band, a guy that can no longer sing and the main reason I wanted to go to the gig is no longer going to be there... on top of that, I actually chose to express my disappointment (and that's what it is, it's not b*tching, whining, moaning... disappointment comes when you care, when you're invested in something and when you can see it slowly crumbling before your eyes) that fact that I chose to express that, here, of all places, on a discussion thread about that very topic... well how f*cking dare I.

I am really pleased you're so clear-headed about this, I am happy for you. You tell people like me to 'grow up'... well, here's a plan... adults, by and large, tend to be accepting of other people's views and opinions, so in reality; why do you f*** off to the shadows and do some growing up yourself.

I just wanted to add, I get the feeling that everyone is desperately trying to write *the* definitive post... and in doing so, you get the kind of sh*t above where we're all attacking each other because there's no speculation left, we've covered it all. But do we really have to get into the whole 'you've only been around since 2002,' snobbery!? I've only been on here since 2005 because before I had a freelance job, I spent a lot less time in front of a computer. But I am your age and have been into this band for 25 years or more. You're emotional, fine. But don't start being a tw*t now, you've not done it in the past.

I find that attitude a lot harder to ignore than the people you're lambasting. I will take your advice though, I think I need to walk away from this for a little while. If this kind of attitude is actually appreciated around here, not sure it's good for my blood pressure.

Ah come on, the creator of Sambongo and touch the winkie really can't walk away. This thread needs you

I see what Steel Horse is saying to be honest in relation to people who are having a pop at the band and Jon in particular when we don't know the details. If this is a personal issue, which we have no solid grounds to believe that it isn't, then attacking Jon or protesting against him is really unfair. If Richie has said to him "Jon, x is going on. Please say nothing" and Jon has taken all this flack and damage to the band to protect Richie, then I take my hat off to Jon completely and he doesn't deserve some of the sh!t he is getting. In fact, it would make him an unbelievable friend.

If this turns into anything else, then I'm pretty much done with (Jon) Bon Jovi because they have mistreated the fans and they have lied from start to finish. In that case, even if Jon hasn't technically lied, he has completely and deliberately misled his fanbase and that would be enough for me to walk away. Also, if that is the case Matt has downright lied and he is the official voice of the band so that's the same as Jon for me. But for the minute, I'm willing to trust what they are telling me in the absence of any solid evidence to the contrary.

In this case, it really is Richie's responsibility to put us in the picture. If this is truly personal to him, then I can see why he might not want to but the situation is getting untenable now.

If people are saying "You know what, this isn't Bon Jovi to me because, for whatever reason, Richie won't be there and he's an important part of the experience for me" then I can understand people not going or selling their tickets. That's reasonable behaviour to me.

However, slamming the band when we don't know the circumstances (and the band might not be allowed to reveal the circumstances) is just unfair in my view.

Solid Sambora · #**2604** 05-01-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75

Im reading some of these posts and Im shocked.

You call yourselves fans yet some want to boo JBJ as its clearly his fault, give up tickets, start slating everything the band does.

Granted I dont recognise half these usernames cause your clearly the sort that hate it when things are going well but the moment there is something wrong you log in and add to your 130 post since 2002 by slating the band and everything to do with them.

Have you stopped to think that maybe JBJ has been asked by Richie not to say anything about whats happend? Yes as fans that seems out of order as we have all bought tickets but maybe the guy is in such a bad place he just wants to be left alone.

Secondly if and i say "if" he has left then legally maybe everyone in the band and within the whole Bon Jovi family are legally not allowed to say anything while the "divorce" happens.

I for one cant wait to find out whats happening just so these so called fans on this board can all **** off again and go lurk back in the shadows.

Tom Hamilton has had to pull out of the Aerosmith tour due to ill health - I wonder if on the Aerosmith boards they are all suggesting that they boo Steve Tyler as its clearly his fault.

Some of you need to grow up.

Translated: "I'm a bigger and better fan than yous, I've even posted more posts so it must mean my opinion is more right than yours."

Not sure what the amount of posts a person has made has to do with anything? Maybe some prefer quality rather than quantity...

Maybe you're the kind of person that finds statistics important, but I think maybe given the tone of your post, perhaps you are the one that needs to grow up.

rolo_tomachi · #**2605** 05-01-2013, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75

Tom Hamilton has had to pull out of the Aerosmith tour due to ill health - I wonder if on the Aerosmith boards they are all suggesting that they boo Steve Tyler as its clearly his fault.
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Tom Hamilton does not take the place of Richie. In any case it would Joe Perry, and without Perry, Aerosmith would be a disaster.

DestinationJovi · #**2606** 05-01-2013, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi

Tom Hamilton does not take the place of Richie. In any case it would Joe Perry, and without Perry, Aerosmith would be a disaster.

1979-1984: Aerosmith without Perry

samboraisgodUK · #**2607** 05-01-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi

1979-1984: Aerosmith without Perry

And it was an absolute disaster, as this will be.

RonJovi · #**2608** 05-01-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi

Tom Hamilton does not take the place of Richie. In any case it would Joe Perry, and without Perry, Aerosmith would be a disaster.

I don't think the point is specific to Richie.

I think Steel Horse is saying that if a band member gets sick and pulls out of a tour, is that a reason to slag off the lead singer? Whether it's Richie, Tico or Dave - it wouldn't really matter.

The only thing that logically doesn't add up for me in that scenario is that, about two weeks after he dropped out, Jon, by his own admission, still hadn't spoken to Richie. If this was an illness, I'd have fully expected him to.

peewee · #**2609** 05-01-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Sambora

Translated: "I'm a bigger and better fan than yous, I've even posted more posts so it must mean my opinion is more right than yours."

Not sure what the amount of posts a person has made has to do with anything? Maybe some prefer quality rather than quantity...

Maybe you're the kind of person that finds statistics important, but I think maybe given the tone of your post, perhaps you are the one that needs to grow up.

Totally agree. There's a bunch of fans with the same way of thinking here. Even the sacred cows

DestinationJovi · #**2610** 05-01-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75

Im reading some of these posts and Im shocked.

You call yourselves fans yet some want to boo JBJ as its clearly his fault, give up tickets, start slating everything the band does.

Granted I dont recognise half these usernames cause your clearly the sort that hate it when things are going well but the moment there is something wrong you log in and add to your 130 post since 2002 by slating the band and everything to do with them.

Have you stopped to think that maybe JBJ has been asked by Richie not to say anything about whats happend? Yes as fans that seems out of order as we have all bought tickets but maybe the guy is in such a bad place he just wants to be left alone.

Secondly if and i say "if" he has left then legally maybe everyone in the band and within the whole Bon Jovi family are legally not allowed to say anything while the "divorce" happens.

I for one cant wait to find out whats happening just so these so called fans on this board can all **** off again and go lurk back in the shadows.

Tom Hamilton has had to pull out of the Aerosmith tour due to ill health - I wonder if on the Aerosmith boards they are all suggesting that they boo Steve Tyler as its clearly his fault.

Some of you need to grow up.

Oh FFS, get over yourself!

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