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Old 05-01-2013, 01:42 PM
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Well done Richie!

You just said "**** you" to the only fans who bought your new solo album that meant much to you, that sold over your solo tour (in the pre-sale!) and were singing every single song of yours so loud, and made you said on twitter how you've "never ever had so much fun on stage your whole career". And then you have the curtesy of going to twitter and posting how you were watching our Every Road covers and they almost made you cry? Well done.

And also, well done by people on this board, who still continue to blame the whole situation on Jon's alleged "arrogant ass". "What a greedy prick Jon Bon is!!!" Indeed
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:44 PM
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By your logic on ticket sales, surely the people in Oz and Japan who are Richie fans will think "Well I want to see Bon Jovi with Richie and he's pulled out of two legs already and I've no clue when he is coming back. I'm gonna hold off until I know more because the tickets won't sell out anyway"?
that's exactly what I am doing. For the first time in my life, I am not excited about a Bon Jovi tour. Will wait for last minute tickets ad if I miss out I am not bothered.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:49 PM
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that's exactly what I am doing. For the first time in my life, I am not excited about a Bon Jovi tour. Will wait for last minute tickets ad if I miss out I am not bothered.
Can't blame you for that to be honest. If this was going on when I bought my Slane ticket, I'd have held off. Richie is a massive part of the band for me and it's a huge disappointment he won't be there.

I'm not excited at all about seeing Bon Jovi this time around. I probably will be excited on the day because I get to get pissed in a field and listen to some songs I love but I can't say I'm looking forward to it.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:07 PM
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How about saying something like "Richie has expressed the sheer desire for me not to say what it is, and we will therefore leave it up to him to speak up when he feels he is ready. The rumours you've heard are not true, we're still friends, and we wish him the best. I wish I could tell you more, but I honestly can't." as opposed to that dodgy statement on Ellen
THIS.

They have been very cautious and deliberate in the language they have used.

‘Personal matter’ does not exclude a personal falling out between Jon and Richie. No one could, under those circumstances, be able to call Jon or anyone else a liar.

The prolonged lack of any meaningful statement continues to make me think there is something personal between them.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:07 PM
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The way things have been said, have not helped. 'No, I've not spoken with him,' 2 weeks after he left the tour... that sticks with me.

If, God forbid, Richie had cancer or something, surely THIS is the point that Jon's over-active imagination would have come to the fore and even if he hadn't spoken with Richie, he would have lied about it. He knows the press, he knows the game, and he knew very well that by saying 'No, I've not spoken with him,' it shatters the whole 'brotherhood' story that he has worked tirelessly to create.

He was almost asking people to read between the lines.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:11 PM
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There isn't always something sinister or cynical going on. Maybe the band just don't know when Richie will be back and can't say for definite. This is really Richie's place to clarify what's going on - not Jon's.
I disagree. I generally hate conspiracy theory stuff, but please don't confuse that with what some of us are saying - our point is the communication and PR has been appalling and there's no justification for it. You can still keep things private and give people an idea of where they stand without revealing all the intimate details. And Jon is the employer. And I find it more believable that RS isn't allowed legally to say anything than Jon's not in a position to do so. Sorry. But ultimately, we're all just taking shots in the dark. Which is exactly what should've been avoided.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:12 PM
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If you believe in magic, Jon & Richie are important for a great BJ Show.

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Old 05-01-2013, 02:16 PM
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Well done Richie!

You just said "**** you" to the only fans who bought your new solo album that meant much to you, that sold over your solo tour (in the pre-sale!) and were singing every single song of yours so loud, and made you said on twitter how you've "never ever had so much fun on stage your whole career". And then you have the curtesy of going to twitter and posting how you were watching our Every Road covers and they almost made you cry? Well done.

And also, well done by people on this board, who still continue to blame the whole situation on Jon's alleged "arrogant ass". "What a greedy prick Jon Bon is!!!" Indeed
You're SURE Richie has done that? Maybe he's been told he can't legally talk about the BJ situation until contracts/legalities have been finalised? Maybe his own work, on a different label, is excluded and he's dying to say SOMETHING?
The last thing Richie is gonna do, is deliberately go out of his way to say "*** you" to the fans.
I was at the UK Aftermath date. He was emotional about how much people being there meant to him.
I'm not say it's all about money with Jon. I doubt it. He just doesn't want to stop his rollercoaster and admit there are issues - and think's he's doing the right thing, I'm sure.
But if he had any touch with reality he'd know their approach is shocking.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:19 PM
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I disagree. I generally hate conspiracy theory stuff, but please don't confuse that with what some of us are saying - our point is the communication and PR has been appalling and there's no justification for it. You can still keep things private and give people an idea of where they stand without revealing all the intimate details. And Jon is the employer. And I find it more believable that RS isn't allowed legally to say anything than Jon's not in a position to do so. Sorry. But ultimately, we're all just taking shots in the dark. Which is exactly what should've been avoided.
I agree with you on the PR. It has been awful. That said, I believe that people are taking shots at the wrong guy.

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‘Personal matter’ does not exclude a personal falling out between Jon and Richie. No one could, under those circumstances, be able to call Jon or anyone else a liar.
I would call Jon a liar in that case. He's responsible for Matt. Whether he reads what Matt has tweeted personally or not - he is responsible for what Matt puts out there. Matt has explicitly said that "there is no fight". With the Ellen appearance, Jon has also given the impression that this is something personal to Richie that has nothing to do with the band. If that proves not to be the case, the Bon Jovi organisation and Jon are liars.



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The way things have been said, have not helped. 'No, I've not spoken with him,' 2 weeks after he left the tour... that sticks with me.

If, God forbid, Richie had cancer or something, surely THIS is the point that Jon's over-active imagination would have come to the fore and even if he hadn't spoken with Richie, he would have lied about it. He knows the press, he knows the game, and he knew very well that by saying 'No, I've not spoken with him,' it shatters the whole 'brotherhood' story that he has worked tirelessly to create.

He was almost asking people to read between the lines.
That's stuck with me too. If Richie was ill himself, Jon would be a major prick not to have gotten in touch over a two week period.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:27 PM
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the cleveland show


the san jose show



Bobby as Meg!?!?!?! Spot on casting!!
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