No Richie on current leg of the tour

Solid Sambora · #**3761** 05-17-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaky

I also think that JBJs responses now are pretty direct, he's almost calling Richie out. I don't think this is something he'd be doing if Richie was dealing with an illness or something major to do with his family.

Totally. The past couple of interviews, I think Jon has pretty much got to the point where enough's enough. He seems as frustrated by the lack of a statement from Richie as we are.

jessycardy · #**3762** 05-17-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Sambora

Are people making too big a deal about the lack of WAN songs? Even before Richie left it was 4-5 maximum. And if you look back through setlists from The Circle right back to Bounce there are plenty of nights where again 4-5 is the standard- some with only 3. It's been a long time since Bon Jovi 'played the album' regularly every night.

Don't get me wrong, I understand that people WANT to hear more new stuff, I just don't understand why it's such a surprise.

It could very well be my memory going, but I don't recall setlists featuring so few songs from the album they were promoting at the moment. Yeah, sometimes there were not many, but 3-4 sounds new to me. And my point was beyond wanting to hear the new stuff or not. I do, for the most part, and I also think it would be the only logical thing to do, since this is the tour to promote the new album. But in my post I was just pointing out how, if the issue was indeed about Richie doing his own thing and somehow shading or taking time away from "What About Now"'s promotion, well, the way things are at the moment produced an even worse outcome to that respect.

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Originally Posted by Beaky

I also think that JBJs responses now are pretty direct, he's almost calling Richie out. I don't think this is something he'd be doing if Richie was dealing with an illness or something major to do with his family.

Totally this.

rolo_tomachi · #**3763** 05-17-2013, 01:57 PM

Matt is a ****ing liar. Hide the truth, misleads fans, the business forward without losing money.

danfan · #**3764** 05-17-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75

Question. Have you been to any shows this tour? I honestly cant remember so not digging.
I just wondered if you were judging by camera phone videos or you have seen the show(s) live?

No, but of course it's not as good. It's not the entire band. Richie is more than a guitar player. I understand Jon's not gonna say "Yeah, the shows have suffered." Obviously, that would be stupid. I'm just wondering if he really believes what he is saying.

Beaky · #**3765** 05-17-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by danfan

No, but of course it's not as good. It's not the entire band. Richie is more than a guitar player. I understand Jon's not gonna say "Yeah, the shows have suffered." Obviously, that would be stupid. I'm just wondering if he really believes what he is saying.

I think he has chosen his words carefully, hence his quotes are similar across different interviews. If Richie had a serious problem, Jon would surely be saying, 'Huge thanks to Phil X, he's stepped in and helped us out in our hour of need. It's not the same without Richie, get well soon... ' or something more supportive.

BEFORE any JBJ fanatics attacked me, I am not saying Jon SHOULD be more supportive. This just makes it even more clear to me that we're talking about Richie throwing his toys out of the pram rather than health.

If it was health, that can improve. If it's a battle of wills, we're f*cked.

steel_horse75 · #**3766** 05-17-2013, 02:17 PM

Its time for Richie to be a man and speak up.
JBJ has put the ball firmly in Richies court now.

samboraisgodUK · #**3767** 05-17-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaky

If it was health, that can improve. If it's a battle of wills, we're f*cked.

Because arguments never fizzle out and friends make up? Before anyone jumps on me and says 'well they're not friends, it's a business' etc. that's even more of a reason for them to resolve this issue.

jessycardy · #**3768** 05-17-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by samboraisgodUK

Because arguments never fizzle out and friends make up? Before anyone jumps on me and says 'well they're not friends, it's a business' etc. that's even more of a reason for them to resolve this issue.

Not to mention you can be cynical all you want, but they are indeed friends.

Solid Sambora · #**3769** 05-17-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jessycardy

It could very well be my memory going, but I don't recall setlists featuring so few songs from the album they were promoting at the moment. Yeah, sometimes there were not many, but 3-4 sounds new to me. And my point was beyond wanting to hear the new stuff or not. I do, for the most part, and I also think it would be the only logical thing to do, since this is the tour to promote the new album. But in my post I was just pointing out how, if the issue was indeed about Richie doing his own thing and somehow shading or taking time away from "What About Now"'s promotion, well, the way things are at the moment produced an even worse outcome to that respect.

They've had their nights, but if you look through something like Setlist.fm there are loads of sets with only 4-5 songs from the at-the-time current album. The Crush tour was the last time they consistently played a larger number of new songs. They can promote it under any banner they like but for last decade and a bit every tour has been a greatest hits tour.

rolo_tomachi · #**3770** 05-17-2013, 02:29 PM

Damn money machine!

F U C K $ M O N E Y

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