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Old 04-04-2013, 07:22 PM
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:23 PM
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such a GREAT POST.. one more observation i have.. every time we had new record before the band stated how much they were proud of it. Have you heard anything like this this time ? Instead Richie said in one of the recent interviews (chat with some girls through skype) that "personally he thought the final mix of WAN will have louder guitars". It means that he's not happy about the way it sounds..

Then Jon admitted "that he called Tico last year and told him to come to the studio and he said no.. you told us we have a break till the ende of the year - he answered".

Then we had the words from the stage - when Jon said "that Richie didn't come to their rehersal beacuse he watched a game on tv".. at the same show - when richie's amps failed - i had a feeling he was kinda hostile.. he tried to be funny but it seemed like he's mad..

so.. i tend to believe that there are some tensions within the band.. I'm tired to see unhappy and grumpy jon which he is lately.. listen to the interviews.. there's a lack of passion and belief in the record he promotes. HE used to be charming few years back.. watching the interviews with him used to make my day better.. he was such a charmer.. happy.. smiling.. he enjoyed his life.. Now I think he gained some weight, looks older - which brings him down i think.. also he has family problems (daughter) - all of this combines and i believe there's some sort of midlife crisis.. if so.. why did he decided to put out a record and go for another tour ? I think it's his another "dark period" like the one in the early 90's.. i'm afraid that is what's wrong whith the band right now..

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Old 04-04-2013, 07:25 PM
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Doesn't seem a particularly arrogant tweet to me?
Like I said I don't know they guy, or anything about him, the way I read t was like, Here I go again, they are calling me to cover.......maybe arrogant wasn't the right word.
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:31 PM
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Like I said I don't know they guy, or anything about him, the way I read t was like, Here I go again, they are calling me to cover.......
Which is exactly what happened. I fail to see how that is an arrogant assumption?
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:36 PM
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Which is exactly what happened. I fail to see how that is an arrogant assumption?
That's why I said maybe arrogant was not the correct word
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:41 PM
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That's why I said maybe arrogant was not the correct word
To answer your question, no he doesn't seem particularly arrogant. Maybe a little cocky at times but he is a good guitarist and successful in his own right so I guess he can be. He is pretty funny too judging by some past tweets so while I understand where you're coming from , I don't think his tweet was meant that way.
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Im going to weigh in on this once just because it seems to be the thing to do.

There are so many different things that go through my head when i try to speculate on what is going on here, and face it its the natural thing to do.

1. I dont believe a think Matt BJ says so i pretend he doesnt even tweet, talk, type, whatever.

2. TMZ is a fairly reliable source and just because a lot of people dont like some of the things they publish, this story isn't crazy out to lunch.

3. I do believe there's a very good chance that this is involving a rift between JBJ and RS for a couple of reasons:

- JBJ has become a monster. There has been a slow shift to this being Jon and the rest of the band, and i know people are going to say "yeah hes always been the boss, blah blah blah" but the interviews used to include the band, they at least used to include RS. Now all i hear is JBJ doing interviews and saying ME, ME, I, MY, etc every chance he gets. You listen to his town hall interview and he is a bold face liar. About HIS shows, HIS tour, HIS this and HIS that, he lies. He lies about setlists, he lies when he makes comments like "my best is yet to come" and i could go on for hours.

- From what i saw in the 2 Toronto shows, there was something going on with JBJ and RS. Very little interaction between the 2, they seemed more disconnected than ever. The set was stale, the band sounded OK, and it seemed like a show that ive seen a million times with a band going through the motions.

- The band didnt want to tour this soon. JBJ made them. To me its about money. For this band doing a tour is like printing money. JBJ is smart and knows the window wont be open for ever so he's milking this thing for all he can. He's gonna keep doing sell out (or close to sell out) shows and every single time they make millions. He's even gotten so cocky with the setlists to the point where they could sing the alphebet and the masses will eat it up.

4. This band is not immune to these types of problems. Some people act like its not possible, that it cant possibly be a fight between "peas and carrots" - well guess what? If i was dealing with that ego (JBJ) every day I wouldnt have lasted this long no matter what the money is. RS has been through enough that he probably doesn't want the stress anymore. He has JBJ by the balls because he knows they cant go to Europe without him so he takes this break and tells JBJ "i'm taking the break you said i was getting" or something along those lines.

5. If it was alcohol, we would know by now. Plain and simple.

I really never thought i would get bored of this band. Ive been to 23 shows and always look forward to the next, but when you look at everything over the past 5 years I have come to the conclusion that Bon Jovi in 2013 is an afterthought. Nobody outside of these message boards cares about this band anymore. JBJ always talks about not being a nostalgia act, which again is a lie. Thats what they are. Outside of HAND (the Song), LH (The song) and maybe WWBTF - nobody wants to hear anything post 2000 at the shows. Most of the crowd just goes along with it because JBJ is bouncing all over the stage. (Which he doesnt even do anymore).

If this band wanted to protect its legacy they would have taken the break as planned. Make people wonder where they've been and come back with something somewhat fresh. Its my opinion that JBJ doesnt care about that either anymore and he would rather ride the marketing machine to the bank.

Its such a weird feeling to have such strong feelings towards JBJ himself but love the band and the music for what it is.

At the end of the day, none of this surprises me. Ive been wondering how the band puts up with him and his attitude/actions, and i really think that this time someone finally stepped up and did something about it.

Of course i could be completely wrong and that wouldnt change my feelings one bit, but when you think of it (if you want to believe it) the signs have been there for some time.
I think you're spot on with everything you've said. Great post, and even if this isn't the reason for Richie leaving I do think it's bound to happen some day, considering what an utter wanker Jon Bon Jovi is.

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Old 04-04-2013, 07:45 PM
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Found the Phil tweet extremely funny! Don't think arrogant at all.
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:57 PM
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Im in Ireland at the moment with only limited internet connection, and since the very first piece of news there seem to be nothing new really.... Still waiting... sigh :/
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:05 PM
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Phil X is not arrogant he simply doesn't give a damn about *Bon Jovi* the legend ..he answers the calls for the good money but he doesn't feel like entering the jovi cult. So his tone is very spontaneous and on the verge to be rude because he doesn't feel any form of respect - yeah the women thinking he is handsome and cool and asking him for a photo or greeting him at the band hotel is nice but I feel the dude would rather have a beer with his real friends... I read that in his tweets
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